8.7 Million Species

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Ps:46:2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,
3 though its waters roar and foam
and the mountains quake with their surging.

90:2 Before the mountains were born
or you brought forth the whole world,
from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

Of course, Chap, your verses have relevance as well
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Hoops wrote:Ps:46:2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,
3 though its waters roar and foam
and the mountains quake with their surging.

90:2 Before the mountains were born
or you brought forth the whole world,
from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

Of course, Chap, your verses have relevance as well


But in this post:

viewtopic.php?p=494105#p494105

You responded as follows:


Hoops wrote:
Chap wrote:As for plants, if you feel able to believe in common plants surviving an immersion of the order of magnitude made necessary by it taking 150 days to abate, fine by me. I don't think many people not already committed for religious reasons will want to follow you, though.

Plants can't survive on what must have been a whole lot of debris floating on the water? And don't forget that the mountains we see today - I think it's in Psalms - were created or formed at this time. It's reasonable that plants would have been thrust up with the mountains.


The first quotation is about mountains falling, as an illustration of the things we shall not be alarmed by if we have God to support us, and the second simply says that God has been there from well before anything was made. I know the first Psalm pretty well by heart in the Prayer Book version "God is our hope and strength'

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWDPXuHnPKU

... and the second is a childhood memory in its metrical version: "Before the hills in order stood/Or earth received her frame/From everlasting, Thou art God/To endless years the same."

Please explain how the two Psalms passages you quote amount to a statement that:

that the mountains we see today ... were created or formed at this time [i.e. at the time of Noah's Flood].


I don't think my failure to see the connection is due to any lack of a wish to understand you on my part.
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Hoops wrote: If you talk a little louder, the big people might be able to hear you. Now get back on your booster seat and let the adults talk.

I love it when you pretend to be an adult. It reminds me of a preteen dressing up in her mom's dress with a face full of makeup smeared everywhere.

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You'd be cute if it weren't for the fact that you're stomping your feet demanding people treat you like a grownup.

*shrug*
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You'd be cute if it weren't for the fact that you're stomping your feet demanding people treat you like a grownup.

It's okay. I know you little guys have a hard time being taken seriously. Do you have anything of substance to add? Or just petulance?
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I can't believe this thread has gone on for this long.
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Hoops wrote: It's okay. I know you little guys have a hard time being taken seriously.

Yes, I'm sure you do know this... from firsthand experience. No doubt about it.

(There's no way you typed that with a straight face, is there? No way at all... unless you're sporting a single digit IQ, which I suppose is possible).

Hoops wrote: Do you have anything of substance to add?

LMAO

Wait... are you expecting substance on a subject so devoid of deserved examination that's it's hardly worth considering?

And are you expecting substance on a subject that you can't be bothered (or are unable) to talk substantively about? Why the double standard?

Hoops wrote:Or just petulance?

Ahhh, the classic "I know you are but what am I" ploy. It really never gets old, does it?
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Blixa wrote:I can't believe this thread has gone on for this long.


And all about:

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Cute kid's story (minus the casual murder of millions of people by God, and the casual, "well, I guess I won't do that again" afterwards). But it's difficult how an educated adult could view this as any more than a fable.
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Buffalo wrote:Cute kid's story (minus the casual murder of millions of people by God, and the casual, "well, I guess I won't do that again" afterwards). But it's difficult how an educated adult could view this as any more than a fable.


Shoot, hoops was right, the graphical evidence you provided shows no alligators so they must not have been on the ark :(...Did they swim in the ocean for all 150 days?....

That thing seems a bit top-heavy and.... is that lion really a vegetarian? where are the plants that all these vegetarians ate? I am starting to think that picture may not be "biblically" (or in any way) accurate....
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The first quotation is about mountains falling, as an illustration of the things we shall not be alarmed by if we have God to support us, and the second simply says that God has been there from well before anything was made. I know the first Psalm pretty well by heart in the Prayer Book version "God is our hope and strength'

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWDPXuHnPKU
I understand your position. However, a fair and literal reading points to Noah's flood. After all, "its" refers to the earth. And when would "its" waters roar and foam? Certainly one can reasonably conclude during the flood.

... and the second is a childhood memory in its metrical version: "Before the hills in order stood/Or earth received her frame/From everlasting, Thou art God/To endless years the same."
I see that as well. But this can also be read as the mountains and earth were created at different times. One could argue, forcefully I believe, that as Noah's flood, if true, was the single most significant geological event, then the reasonable explanation for when the mountains were created would be at this time.
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You still don't get what "the subject" is. I'll let you go back through the thread and figure it out.
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