These Latin shorthand notes matched nearly sixty percent of the transcript's occasionally repeated "Caractors."
This only gives more credence to Darth J's earlier theory that the Nephites landed in ancient Rome.
This has, I think, pretty much killed, buried, and nailed the coffin shut on the idea the Nephites lived in the Americas, and then thrown the coffin into Mount Doom, before dropping Mt Doom under the continental plates.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
To my knowledge, they have done the only safe thing: ignore it. The very concept of Irish monastic shorthand was a seed for the book. And Mitchill's and the Mack association just strengthens the argument.
Huckelberry said: I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.
MCB wrote:To my knowledge, they have done the only safe thing: ignore it. The very concept of Irish monastic shorthand was a seed for the book. And Mitchill's and the Mack association just strengthens the argument.
Thanks, MCB. I guess I am shocked that this huge, glaring problem has never been addressed by any apologist.
The odds that the similarities are just coincidental would be astronomically small.
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
When Martin Harris took a copy of the characters to "the learned" he first visited Samuel Mitchill. The same Samuel Mitchell who had examined the Detroit Manuscript from which these characters come. In the case of the Detroit MS characters, they were authentic short hand characters but it took a while for the learned to figure that out.
I don't believe it was a coincidence that Harris went to Mitchill before seeing Charles Anthon. Smith knew that there was a good chance Mitchill would remember these characters from the Detroit Manuscript and pronounce them genuine. But Mitchill refused to take the bait and instead sent Harris to see Anthon.
"...a pious lie, you know, has a great deal more influence with an ignorant people than a profane one."
- Sidney Rigdon, as quoted in the Quincy Whig, June 8, 1839, vol 2 #6.
These Latin shorthand notes matched nearly sixty percent of the transcript's occasionally repeated "Caractors."
This only gives more credence to Darth J's earlier theory that the Nephites landed in ancient Rome.
This has, I think, pretty much killed, buried, and nailed the coffin shut on the idea the Nephites lived in the Americas, and then thrown the coffin into Mount Doom, before dropping Mt Doom under the continental plates.
Not so soon Brute! What both scripts have in common is that they are shorthand. A dot? A crossed line? A squiggle? An arrow point? What's a prophet to do? None of the complex glyphs show up. None of the picture glyphs show up either. This is a red herring.
Alphabet systems can speak vastly different languages and still manage the use of identical. marks. And another faux tableau fails to fit the frame made to contain it.
Roger wrote:When Martin Harris took a copy of the characters to "the learned" he first visited Samuel Mitchill. The same Samuel Mitchell who had examined the Detroit Manuscript from which these characters come. In the case of the Detroit MS characters, they were authentic short hand characters but it took a while for the learned to figure that out.
I don't believe it was a coincidence that Harris went to Mitchill before seeing Charles Anthon. Smith knew that there was a good chance Mitchill would remember these characters from the Detroit Manuscript and pronounce them genuine. But Mitchill refused to take the bait and instead sent Harris to see Anthon.
Yes, and the guy who discovered the Detroit Manuscript was a business partner to Stephen Mack, Joseph Smith's uncle and Oliver Cowdery's cousin.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Nightlion wrote:Not so soon Brute! What both scripts have in common is that they are shorthand. A dot? A crossed line? A squiggle? An arrow point? What's a prophet to do? None of the complex glyphs show up. None of the picture glyphs show up either. This is a red herring.
Alphabet systems can speak vastly different languages and still manage the use of identical. marks. And another faux tableau fails to fit the frame made to contain it.
Yes, shorthand for Latin, a shorthand system developed thousands of years after the time of Nephi. I don't expect you to get it because you're mentally ill, but anyone thinking clearly can see what is going on here.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
