I was talking to an agnostic recently. In explaining his agnosticism, he said something like this:
"If there's a God, then he/she appears be apathetic to events in our universe. All events in our Universe can be explained with or without the existence of a God. Therefore, if there is a God, then that he/she/it has had no more impact than no God at all. To all appearances, any purported higher power is totally indifferent to our universe and everyone in it."
Obviously I agree, but what do you think about his conclusion? Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
Agnostic's viewpoint
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Agnostic's viewpoint
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Buffalo wrote:... Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
That rather depends what you mean by 'explained', doesn't it? I can remember God being produced by the older generation as an excuse for not providing any further explanations.
Why should one not ask for an explanation of the explanation? I can't see why one should ever refrain from asking for more, so far as understanding is concerned.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Stem's wife say, "stem's magnificent caboose".
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Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Buffalo wrote: Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
No.
Of course, I don't think a supreme being explains anything any more than, "it's magic" explains anything. Either of those "explanations" sounds like code for, "How the hell do I know?"
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Some Schmo wrote:Buffalo wrote: Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
No.
Of course, I don't think a supreme being explains anything any more than, "it's magic" explains anything. Either of those "explanations" sounds like code for, "How the hell do I know?"
Indeed
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
stemelbow wrote:Stem's wife say, "stem's magnificent caboose".
I'm afraid we're going to need empirical evidence here, Stem.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Buffalo wrote:stemelbow wrote:Stem's wife say, "stem's magnificent caboose".
I'm afraid we're going to need empirical evidence here, Stem.
NO WE'RE NOT! NO WE'RE NOT!
eschew obfuscation
"I'll let you believers in on a little secret: not only is the LDS church not really true, it's obviously not true." -Sethbag
"I'll let you believers in on a little secret: not only is the LDS church not really true, it's obviously not true." -Sethbag