Dan Peterson is Something Else

[_Doctor Scratch]

DCP is a very reasonable person (if we should ever be inclined to listen to his POV), and I think that was clearly demonstrated in his Mormon Stories interview. Perhaps the problem is that we don't really listen.

I don't think he's reasonable when it comes to defense of the Church, Ray. While Dan Wotherspoon led DCP in the direction of some of the more troublesome stuff, he obviously didn't press him in any kind of substantive way. Plus, DCP frankly admitted that he begins with a foregone conclusion about issues like the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham, rather than fully examining the evidence before making up his mind, and I don't think that's very reasonable at all.

[_Droopy]

Yes, you are a coward. And quite frankly, a disgusting individual if you cannot bring yourself to condemn William Schryver's repugnant attacks on women. That's something that is going to haunt you for the rest of your career.

I promise you.

What a cute little intellectual Stalinist you are, Kevin.

Really you are.

[_Droopy]

I didn't ask for this crap

.

Yes you do, and you have been for years, and you should consider yourself very lucky that you don't receive many orders of magnitude what you do get in return. Its a testament to the maturity and civility of people like Daniel and other of your numerous victims that they don't, in the majority of cases, return tit for tat.

you are a coward and a liar and I regret ever standing up for you in the past, which was more often than you realize.

I won't at this juncture tell you what I think of you, based on what is now a hell bent flailing rampage aimed at the personal destruction of the reputation and character of people who mean you no ill, and who feel obliged to defend the church and themselves from your foam flecked hatred.

Whatever I or anyone else has ever labeled you, you are rapidly descending down a whirling vortex into a region of unalloyed evil. I've known people like you before, Kevin, in real life, not on the Internet, and you're becoming an object of concern here, especially when you "promise" Daniel that you will continue your project of defamation against both him and Will out into the foreseeable future.

What is your limit, Kevin? At what point are you willing to stop your obsession to destroy and slander Latter day Saints who do not believe as you do?

[_Droopy]

Now you're lying again. You can't even keep up with your own argument, which was that, "Everybody with whom Kevin disagrees is almost immediately revealed to be a liar, a moron, an idiot, an incompetent, and/or a hypocrite." You couldn't even provide evidence that I had said this about YOU until you gave me a reason, tonight, to call you a liar and coward.

This is all so silly and surreal. If Danial wanted too, and if I or anyone else who's interacted with you for any length of time wanted to, we could dredge up and point to almost every single post you've made here or at MAD over the last four or five years for evidence that "everybody with whom Kevin disagrees is almost immediately revealed to be a liar, a moron, an idiot, an incompetent, and/or a hypocrite."

That's the fact of the matter, and you know it as well as I or anyone else knows it. You also know that neither Daniel or anyone else is going to spend hours researching the archives of this intellectual ghetto of a message board for the purpose of documenting what you and everybody else already knows to be the case.

You need to get a bit of a grip, Kevin, because its not going to be easy for you to type your rants in a straitjacket.

[_RayAgostini]

I don't think he's reasonable when it comes to defense of the Church, Ray. While Dan Wotherspoon led DCP in the direction of some of the more troublesome stuff, he obviously didn't press him in any kind of substantive way. Plus, DCP frankly admitted that he begins with a foregone conclusion about issues like the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham, rather than fully examining the evidence before making up his mind, and I don't think that's very reasonable at all.

Dear Doctor, if anyone has thoroughly examined the pro and con evidence for the Book of Mormon, it is DCP. I may not agree with his conclusions, but no one can accuse him of not “fully examining” the evidence, for or against. Why he still chooses to believe (in historicity) is a bit of a mystery to me, but I’d never accuse him of ignorance. He’s also a very fine human being, and one I admire. And I know who he is in real life (lol).

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

You also know that neither Daniel or anyone else is going to spend hours researching the archives of this intellectual ghetto of a message board for the purpose of documenting what you and everybody else already knows to be the case.

Droopy,

The IQ of this "intellectual ghetto" would greatly increase in the wake of your absence.

[_Kevin Graham]

if anyone has thoroughly examined the pro and con evidence for the Book of Mormon, it is DCP. I may not agree with his conclusions, but no one can accuse him of not “fully examining” the evidence, for or against.

I can. Especially if his knowledge of the Book of Abraham is any indication.

His Nephi-Asherah argument was pathetic, and I showed why in a previous debate which of course, he conveniently abandoned. He did what Nibley used to do, which was to use whatever he could to support his thesis while ignoring all the data that undermined it.

[_Kevin Graham]

You also know that neither Daniel or anyone else is going to spend hours researching the archives of this intellectual ghetto of a message board for the purpose of documenting what you and everybody else already knows to be the case.

Droopy,

The IQ of this "intellectual ghetto" would greatly increase in the wake of your absence.

Droopy doesn't understand that Dan doesn't really need to pull up every post I ever made. He cannot even substantiate his claim that I had previously called him a liar or incompetent. The only examples he has are a few who refer to some of his close friends, which I brought too his attention in private emails. And there is the catch. This is really all about Dan trying to take up for his buddies who hate me for exposing them as intellectual frauds. Dan has no case against me or else he would produce evidence. But he can't, and he knows it. He is not interested in truth, and never was. He is only interested in the same thing John Taylor and Joseph Smith were interested in. Defending the Church at any cost. Truth is just a nuisance and all those people who dare to tell the truth must be discredited via smear campaigns.

[_Kevin Graham]

This is all so silly and surreal.

Oh really? Then I hearby declare that Loran Blood has called everyone he has ever disagreed with, a shameless homosexual.

I'd love to prove it, but as Droopy just said, it is unreasonable to expect me to go through his entire history of posting to show how he has said this of everyone he has ever disagreed with. Right Droopy? Can I get away with that? No, and neither can Dan. Your attempt to make excuses for his refusal to back up his slander if pathetic.

Droops, you're still out of your league small fry.

I know you feel important right now because well, brown-nosing is always appreciated by LDS scholars who are up against the ropes. Sad that this is what you have to do to feel part of the team again.

[_Themis]

if anyone has thoroughly examined the pro and con evidence for the Book of Mormon, it is DCP. I may not agree with his conclusions, but no one can accuse him of not “fully examining” the evidence, for or against.

I can. Especially if his knowledge of the Book of Abraham is any indication.

His Nephi-Asherah argument was pathetic, and I showed why in a previous debate which of course, he conveniently abandoned. He did what Nibley used to do, which was to use whatever he could to support his thesis while ignoring all the data that undermined it.

Were still waiting for his response to George Miller on the thread about evidences for the Book of Abraham. It seems he may not have examined all the evidences, and has said he wants time to examine GM's evidence he and others presented that show some of the evidence Dan presented are not correct.

Here is the link for anyone interested http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19774