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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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Some Schmo wrote:
Nomad wrote: Hey Kevin, maybe you can get MsJack to whip up one of her "Mormon Misogynist Specials" for Dan Peterson, too. We haven't had a good MsJack misogyny rant going for what ... two or three days now?

Still smarting from that, huh Willy?

Mmm. Notice how often he brings me up on threads that have absolutely nothing to do with me, where I'm not even participating? Notice how I never do the same for him?
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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Droopy wrote:You also know that neither Daniel or anyone else is going to spend hours researching the archives of this intellectual ghetto of a message board for the purpose of documenting what you and everybody else already knows to be the case.


Wouldn't an "intellectual ghetto" be a place where intellectuals live together? Perhaps intellectual vacuum?
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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Tarski wrote:It seems to me that Kevin's main "sin" is that he doesn't let people get away with things.


This is the principle reason for all the hostility from the MAD crowd.
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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Bond James Bond wrote:]
Droopy wrote:You also know that neither Daniel or anyone else is going to spend hours researching the archives of this intellectual ghetto of a message board for the purpose of documenting what you and everybody else already knows to be the case.


Wouldn't an "intellectual ghetto" be a place where intellectuals live together? Perhaps intellectual vacuum?


Droopy's thesaurus fails him once again.
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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So, let me get this straight (Like Jason, I am not sure I am following it all, but I'll give it a shot):

1. Kevin posts some substantive information, complete with quotes and sources, showing that John Taylor lied about polygamy.
2. No apologist, including DCP, addressed the substantive information that showed John Taylor lied about polygamy.
3. Instead, the apologists, including DCP himself, attacked Kevin, saying that Kevin calls "everyone" who disagrees with him a liar.
4. Kevin then defended himself against that charge, again with specific examples of people he disagrees with whom he does not consider and has never called liars (and, in fact, individuals with whom Kevin has disagreed in the past have confirmed that he has never called them liars).
5. The apologists, including DCP, continue to fail to address the substantive information Kevin has cited to show that (a) John Taylor lied about polygamy and (b) Kevin does not think everyone he disagrees with is a liar.
6. Instead, the apologists (principally Droopy and YahooBot) continue to attack Kevin, calling him unhinged, remarking about his posting style and so forth, without ever addressing the substantive arguments he has made concerning the lies told by John Taylor and, now, DCP.

Have I got it about right? Can someone show me where the apologists have addressed Kevin's argument that John Taylor lied about polygamy?
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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Here's how it all happened as I was particularly privy to the whole affair:

1. Yesterday Kevin went off on Dan Peterson and Schryver, out of the blue when speaking of some other political author on this site.
2. Zakuska started a thread on MDD putting the Taylor afair into perspective, commenting on the debating that took place way back when, previously alluded to by Kevin.
3. Kevin responded with some comment claiming the questioning regarding the assassination of Boggs was meant as a harmless question.
4. Stem astutely observed how the questioning way back when sounded much like the question put forth by Gee that Kevin and other critics took much issue with (which I have no problem with)
5. Peterson later replied in the thread pointing out that Kevin went off on Peterson, unsolicited, of course, on this board in a thread unrelated to Peterson at all and in so doing said Kevin will inevitably refer to those who disagree with him as a liar, blah blah blah (which proved true here for instance).
6. Kevin demanded proof of Peterson's allegations all the while calling Peterson names just as Peterson says he'd do; thus giving credence to his allegations.
6. Now we have a bunch of people commenting and complaining about Peterson again over at this site.

And the circle continues.
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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[quote="Kevin Graham"]That's why Robert Crockett and Daniel Peterson are proven liars.
[quote]

Point further proven. Your posts are just getting worse. They've always been bad. Why spend so much time in this pursuit if you only get unhinged?
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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I want to know what Thomas Sowell lied about. Any links?
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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But, "Can someone show me where the apologists have addressed Kevin's argument that John Taylor lied about polygamy?"
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Re: Dan Peterson is a Coward

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MsJack wrote:Mmm. Notice how often he brings me up on threads that have absolutely nothing to do with me, where I'm not even participating? Notice how I never do the same for him?

LOL!

Mi sono reso conto del fatto che la "MsJack" sia diventata proprio un capolavoro dell’ingannarsi. Lei si è ben provata degna di prendersene il merito, e ne devo concederla il credito dovuto.

Comunque, sebbene l’autore di questo filo voglia che ce lo pensiamo di trattarsene del buon professore, e la sua viltà presunta, io credo che sia perfettamente trasparente che lui se ne preoccupi più della questione: “Condannerà il professore il mio nemico mortale?” Ecco ciò che è, per lui, l’ansia suprema: ridurre al silenzio quella voce che si afflige di più. In praticamente ogni suoi fili recenti, o qui o nell’altro foro, lui si fa sicuro di far menzionare il mio nome, sempre cogli aggettivi che se ne siano adeguati, al pare suo. Sembra che lui (come anche molte altre di voi) sia quasi ossessionato dal bisogno a constringere il buon professore a rinunciarmi, una volta per tutte! Infatti, sono bel persuaso che questa sia stata una delle vostre interesse principali già da molti anni. Vi ho tormentati con le mie parole, e vi sentite costretti a farmene cessare.

Beh, vedremo che cosa accadrà. Ho buona ragione per credere che gli sforzi dispenti qui onde rendermi silenzioso, e tener nascosti i risultati della mia ricerca, si saranno tutti vanitosi ed inutili. In ogni caso, in fin dei conti, non me ne infischierò niente. Nonostante quanto la voleste, non mi potete tenere nel vostro buio. La verità è indubbiamente una scelta, ed io, senza alcun dubbio, so di aver scelta bene.
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