Worst LDS talks ever

[_LDSToronto]

An interesting link I stumbled across yesterday....

http://www.dovesandserpents.org/wp/2011 ... alks-ever/

Some oldies but goodies!

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[_EAllusion]

Hahaha. From 2006 no less.

Let us be Men

Years ago, when my brothers and I were boys, our mother had radical cancer surgery. She came very close to death. Much of the tissue in her neck and shoulder had to be removed, and for a long time it was very painful for her to use her right arm.

One morning about a year after the surgery, my father took Mother to an appliance store and asked the manager to show her how to use a machine he had for ironing clothes. The machine was called an Ironrite. It was operated from a chair by pressing pedals with one’s knees to lower a padded roller against a heated metal surface and turn the roller, feeding in shirts, pants, dresses, and other articles. You can see that this would make ironing (of which there was a great deal in our family of five boys) much easier, especially for a woman with limited use of her arm. Mother was shocked when Dad told the manager they would buy the machine and then paid cash for it. Despite my father’s good income as a veterinarian, Mother’s surgery and medications had left them in a difficult financial situation.

On the way home, my mother was upset: “How can we afford it? Where did the money come from? How will we get along now?” Finally Dad told her that he had gone without lunches for nearly a year to save enough money. “Now when you iron,” he said, “you won’t have to stop and go into the bedroom and cry until the pain in your arm stops.” She didn’t know he knew about that. I was not aware of my father’s sacrifice and act of love for my mother at the time, but now that I know, I say to myself, “There is a man.”

The prophet Lehi pled with his rebellious sons, saying, “Arise from the dust, my sons, and be men” (2 Nephi 1:21; emphasis added).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECIKVaz5rc

[Anonymous]

Hahaha. From 2006 no less.

Let us be Men

Years ago, when my brothers and I were boys, our mother had radical cancer surgery. She came very close to death. Much of the tissue in her neck and shoulder had to be removed, and for a long time it was very painful for her to use her right arm.

One morning about a year after the surgery, my father took Mother to an appliance store and asked the manager to show her how to use a machine he had for ironing clothes. The machine was called an Ironrite. It was operated from a chair by pressing pedals with one’s knees to lower a padded roller against a heated metal surface and turn the roller, feeding in shirts, pants, dresses, and other articles. You can see that this would make ironing (of which there was a great deal in our family of five boys) much easier, especially for a woman with limited use of her arm. Mother was shocked when Dad told the manager they would buy the machine and then paid cash for it. Despite my father’s good income as a veterinarian, Mother’s surgery and medications had left them in a difficult financial situation.

On the way home, my mother was upset: “How can we afford it? Where did the money come from? How will we get along now?” Finally Dad told her that he had gone without lunches for nearly a year to save enough money. “Now when you iron,” he said, “you won’t have to stop and go into the bedroom and cry until the pain in your arm stops.” She didn’t know he knew about that. I was not aware of my father’s sacrifice and act of love for my mother at the time, but now that I know, I say to myself, “There is a man.”

The prophet Lehi pled with his rebellious sons, saying, “Arise from the dust, my sons, and be men” (2 Nephi 1:21; emphasis added).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECIKVaz5rc

This has always been a personal favorite of mine. Because god forbid a man or a boy do women's work!

by the way, my mom had an Ironrite. It was not easy to use and she eventually returned to ironing things the old fashioned way rather than dealing with the frustration of laying each garment perfectly on the padded roller and then inevitably re-doing them over and over as un-noticed creases became nearly indelibly pressed in.

[_just me]

This has always been a personal favorite of mine. Because god forbid a man or a boy do women's work!

No joke! Better to go without lunch then iron your own damn shirts.

[_just me]

Oh yay! They have my favorite that I get to hear repeated over and over again in lessons and talks!

Faith In The Lord Jesus Christ (the 5 D's)

First is doubt. Doubt is not a principle of the gospel. It does not come from the Light of Christ or the influence of the Holy Ghost. Doubt is a negative emotion related to fear. It comes from a lack of confidence in one’s self or abilities. It is inconsistent with our divine identity as children of God.

Doubt leads to discouragement. Discouragement comes from missed expectations. Chronic discouragement leads to lower expectations, decreased effort, weakened desire, and greater difficulty feeling and following the Spirit (see Preach My Gospel [2004], 10). Discouragement and despair are the very antithesis of faith.

Discouragement leads to distraction, a lack of focus. Distraction eliminates the very focus the eye of faith requires. Discouragement and distraction are two of Satan’s most effective tools, but they are also bad habits.

Distraction leads to a lack of diligence, a reduced commitment to remain true and faithful and to carry on through despite hardship and disappointment. Disappointment is an inevitable part of life, but it need not lead to doubt, discouragement, distraction, or lack of diligence.

If not reversed, this path ultimately leads to disobedience, which undermines the very basis of faith. So often the result is disbelief, the conscious or unconscious refusal to believe.

[_MsJack]

Re: "Let Us Be Men," I thought that harmony had a good comment on the matter here at MDB some time ago:

If the lady in the story was anything like my momma, she would not have welcomed the husband’s help by taking over the task no matter what. His assistance in buying a new machine that would make her task easier, yes, and she would have thanked him repeatedly for his kindness… but him actually taking over the task, as some had suggested? No. At least, not my momma. I can’t speak for the lady in the story.

When I was about 8, my mother managed to burn the bottoms of her feet so badly, she was ordered to stay in bed for 2 weeks. Daddy arranged for a neighbor girl to come in every day and do the cooking and housework. Momma was not a good patient. She had the neighbor girl set up the ironing board by the bed, so Momma could sit on the bed and still do the ironing.

I don’t think men today (and some women) understand how important it used to be (before permanent press and tumbling dryers) for the clothes to be ironed “just so”. Going out in a wrinkled shirt and pants reflected badly on the “Queen of the House”, and my momma was no different from her peers. She’d have been ashamed, had Daddy ironed his own shirts. Heck, she even ironed the handkerchiefs he blew his nose in, the sheets, and the curtains. I suspect the lady in the story and my momma would have understood each other well.

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I'm not saying it isn't an awful anecdote (it is). But what shocks me about it now is more how out-of-touch the leadership is with the present generation.

I'd say David A. Bednar's "Quick to Observe" is the worst one that I've heard in recent memory.

[_Kevin Graham]

Wasn't there one a few years ago where an Apostle asked during Priesthood session, "do you want your wife being more educated than you?"

[_Jonah]

I'd say David A. Bednar's "Quick to Observe" is the worst one that I've heard in recent memory.

Haaa haaa, you beat me to it. I'd have to say that "Quick to Observe" is my new favorite worst LDS talk.

"Sister Bednar and I are acquainted with a returned missionary who had dated a special young woman for a period of time. This young man cared for the young woman very much, and he was desirous of making his relationship with her more serious. He was considering and hoping for engagement and marriage. Now this relationship was developing during the time that President Hinckley counseled the Relief Society sisters and young women of the Church to wear only one earring in each ear.

The young man waited patiently over a period of time for the young woman to remove her extra earrings, but she did not take them out. This was a valuable piece of information for this young man, and he felt unsettled about her nonresponsiveness to a prophet’s pleading. For this and other reasons, he ultimately stopped dating the young woman, because he was looking for an eternal companion who had the courage to promptly and quietly obey the counsel of the prophet in all things and at all times. The young man was quick to observe that the young woman was not quick to observe.

Now before I continue, I presume that some of you might have difficulty with my last example. In fact, this particular illustration of the young man being quick to observe may even fan the flames of controversy on campus, resulting in letters of disagreement to the Daily Universe! You may believe the young man was too judgmental or that basing an eternally important decision, even in part, upon such a supposedly minor issue is silly or fanatical. Perhaps you are bothered because the example focuses upon a young woman who failed to respond to prophetic counsel instead of upon a young man. I simply invite you to consider and ponder the power of being quick to observe and what was actually observed in the case I just described. The issue was not earrings!"

AND NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY - That "special young woman" thanks her lucky stars each night that she didn't hook up with that jackass. As for the returned missionary?? He is still single in his search for that "special" uni-pierced eternal companion. Second dates are rare as the majority of women he takes out are "quick to observe" that he is an idiot.

[_Darth J]

But what shocks me about it now is more how out-of-touch the leadership is with the present generation.

I know that Mormon apologists are busy explaining how steel swords, chariots, and horses really mean wooden clubs, sleds, and tapirs.

However, if any of them get a minute, maybe someone could take a break from that and explain why anyone should be interested in what the modern LDS Church has to say.

[_Simon Belmont]

Hahaha. From 2006 no less.

Why is it funny that a husband wanted to make life easier for his loved ones? I don't get why you think this story is funny at all. You don't know the full situation of the family; could it possibly be that the husband and wife shared household duties and the husband wanted to make hers (no matter what they were) as easy as possible on her?

Sometimes your people literally make me sick to my stomach.