Caffeine is bad for you spiritually

[_CSA]

It starts innocently enough with a Cola which is not officially against the Word of Wisdom but changes the way the Holy Ghost will influence the mind. I have finished working with a man and his wife who had trouble finding their lost testimonies.

They had tried early this year regaining their testimonies based on a new years resolution nine months ago. I suggested three months ago that they follow the Word of Wisdom a little differently. Interpreting the items in the Word of Wisdom as things which can deter the influence of the Holy Ghost, I suggested that maybe caffeine should be completely eliminated. Following the Word of Wisdom was easy but giving up their caffeine drinks was not without difficulty.

They both failed that first week because they said they were getting headaches. I suggested that although this was simply caffeine withdrawal to think of it as clearing up the spiritual conduits within the brain. It seems as each week they went without caffeine they gained spiritual clarity. They began to feel the spirit again and both have found their testimonies again.

I for one, think the LDS church is not doing enough in defining and interpreting the Word of Wisdom in terms that could be used in this day and age. Hot drinks were later interpreted to be coffee and tea, while so many LDS are drinking Colas and ice tea with some even drinking frozen or iced coffee because it does not specifically state these in the Word of Wisdom.

If my theory is correct and caffeine itself blocks the receptiveness of spiritual conduits in the brain, why do we allow cola drinkers to get temple recommends?

[_Buffalo]

Maybe caffeine blocks your BS receptors.

[_3sheets2thewind]

It starts innocently enough with a Cola which is not officially against the Word of Wisdom but changes the way the Holy Ghost will influence the mind. I have finished working with a man and his wife who had trouble finding their lost testimonies.

They had tried early this year regaining their testimonies based on a new years resolution nine months ago. I suggested three months ago that they follow the Word of Wisdom a little differently. Interpreting the items in the Word of Wisdom as things which can deter the influence of the Holy Ghost, I suggested that maybe caffeine should be completely eliminated. Following the Word of Wisdom was easy but giving up their caffeine drinks was not without difficulty.

They both failed that first week because they said they were getting headaches. I suggested that although this was simply caffeine withdrawal to think of it as clearing up the spiritual conduits within the brain. It seems as each week they went without caffeine they gained spiritual clarity. They began to feel the spirit again and both have found their testimonies again.

I for one, think the LDS church is not doing enough in defining and interpreting the Word of Wisdom in terms that could be used in this day and age. Hot drinks were later interpreted to be coffee and tea, while so many LDS are drinking Colas and ice tea with some even drinking frozen or iced coffee because it does not specifically state these in the Word of Wisdom.

If my theory is correct and caffeine itself blocks the receptiveness of spiritual conduits in the brain, why do we allow cola drinkers to get temple recommends?

So you are saying that their eternal salvation rested solely on caffeine consumption?

Do you have any proof of "spiritual conduits" to the brain? Regaining a testimony involves a whole lot more than not consuming ANYTHING that contains caffeine?

Did you also suggest they stop eating chocolate, chocolate does contain caffeine. At the outset there are entirely too many variables to consider you position valid.

[_LDSToronto]

In other news, I've had many spiritual experiences while drinking beer.

[_Yoda]

In other news, I've had many spiritual experiences while drinking beer.

ROTFL!

[_jon]

CSA,

Where do you stand on chocolate as a testimony blocker?

[_Some Schmo]

People tend to find religion in times of crisis and high stress. They'll try just about any crazy thing to help deal with the issues they're facing.

It would be no more surprise to me that the discomfort of quitting coffee could put someone in a dangerously receptive place than denying a person food for 24 hours could make some believe the crap spouted at a testimony meeting. Physiology affects brain state. This is not new.

[_CSA]

So you are saying that their eternal salvation rested solely on caffeine consumption?

Do you have any proof of "spiritual conduits" to the brain? Regaining a testimony involves a whole lot more than not consuming ANYTHING that contains caffeine?

Did you also suggest they stop eating chocolate, chocolate does contain caffeine. At the outset there are entirely too many variables to consider you position valid.

Eternal salvation does not rest solely on caffeine consumption.
My only proof is in what I have observed in regards to this couple and other observations.
Someone eating chocolate for a daily caffeine fix while not breaking the Word of Wisdom probably has the same spiritual conduit blocks that cola and coffee drinkers have.

[_jon]

CSA,

Is caffeine a bigger blocker than meat?

[_CSA]

CSA,

Is caffeine a bigger blocker than meat?

The couple were not big meat eaters in the first place. Not quite vegetarians but they only slightly altered their meat intake during this experiment.