Caffeine is bad for you spiritually

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Re: Caffeine is bad for you spiritually

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Has anyone in this thread defined "spirituality"? For those who accept such a thing exists

- what is it? how is it measured/detected?
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marg wrote:Has anyone in this thread defined "spirituality"? For those who accept such a thing exists

- what is it? how is it measured/detected?


It's made of fairy dust and is transported via mojo juice. It's completely undetectable in the presence of science.
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To test CSA’s theory, I skipped my coffee before perusing the board this morning. I don’t how to explain it, but everything looked different, indeed, and I was able to understand those apologists who had previously never made sense to me. Perhaps CSA is right and this was due to an increase in my receptivity to the Holy Ghost.

Needless to say, I’m intrigued. Tomorrow morning, I’m going to try it again, only this time, I’m also going to forgo my usual snifter of brandy and dose of medical marijuana. I fully expect to be returning to the baptismal waters before the week’s end.

Thank you, CSA. Thank you.
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Wisdom Seeker wrote:I am glad I came across this as I am dealing with a caffeine withdrawal headache and if you state is correct my spiritual conduits are opening up. I am interested to see where this journey will lead. I still am eating meat so we should be able to isolate just caffeine related products in this test.


Returning and reporting: Day 2 without caffeine. Headache still there, nearly fell asleep at work and not feeling very spiritual. Having my blood pressure checked each night this week to see what happens physically. I will pick up a Book of Mormon tonight to see if I get spiritual.
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marg wrote:Has anyone in this thread defined "spirituality"? For those who accept such a thing exists

- what is it? how is it measured/detected?


This is the most important thing that has to be done and hasn't been done yet. CSA can never hope to test his/her hypothesis until spirituality is defined in such a way as can be measured/detected. Until then it is just believing what one wants to.
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As the females here (Just Me, Blixa and Liz3564) have apparently figured out, I am pretty sure that CSA is treating us to a prime example of Poe's Law in action on this thread.

And from many of the responses, it would appear that CSA has made his/her point.

Roughly put, Poe's Law states that parody of extreme beliefs such as religious fundamentalism or other extreme or crackpot belief systems are difficult or impossible to distinguish from the actual crackpot fundamentalist religion or belief set.

I suppose that a corollary of Poe's Law would be that if a parody cannot be distinguished from the real thing, then one is dealing with crackpot fundamentalism.

(At least I think that this is the case. When dealing with Mormonism, it is sometimes impossible to tell.)
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CSA wrote:
café crema wrote:

I see along with spouting unsupported nonsense about the brain and overblown dangers of caffeine, you're also having trouble understanding the phrase "common sense".


I feel there are dangers in caffeine in which science may not be able to prove. I have seen people who have had trouble with spirituality gain a much greater spirituality by getting off of caffeinated beverages. I am sorry if this upsets you. I would guess by your screen-name you are involved with coffee, possibly working at starbucks and would hate to see the truth about caffeine be exposed.

You can believe what you want to believe, it doesn't upset me. What I find unacceptable (even deceptive) is to present it couched in ways that imply you are providing valid physiological reasoning to support your "feeling". The line "would hate to see the truth about caffeine be exposed implies you have the "truth" about caffeine, which obviously you don't, so you are basically lying here.
As for spirituality over the years I've seen people give up things for Lent, coffee, candy, television, computers, video games, among them, in all these cases I've seen a much greater spirituality from the person. I've also seen this increase when my friends and one co-worker who are Orthodox when they are participating in their many fasts. And as a bonus none of these people were motivated by the fear of danger like those you speak of, I'd hate to live in the fear you mire your charges in.

And no I don't work at Starbucks (or any other coffee related business) though I did deliver 10 gallons of milk to them this afternoon as a favor the owner of the grocery store in town and I got an ice latte out of the deal woohoo. Odd that you mentioned Starbucks by name when I had such a pleasant experience today at both the grocery store and Starbucks.
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DrW wrote:As the females here (Just Me, Blixa and Liz3564) have apparently figured out, I am pretty sure that CSA is treating us to a prime example of Poe's Law in action on this thread.

And from many of the responses, it would appear that CSA has made his/her point.

Roughly put, Poe's Law states that parody of extreme beliefs such as religious fundamentalism or other extreme or crackpot belief systems are difficult or impossible to distinguish from the actual crackpot fundamentalist religion or belief set.

I suppose that a corollary of Poe's Law would be that if a parody cannot be distinguished from the real thing, then one is dealing with crackpot fundamentalism.

(At least I think that this is the case. When dealing with Mormonism, it is sometimes impossible to tell.)


I lurked over at MD&D for quite a while, after reading a lot of Pahoran, ColdSteel, BCSpace, LeSellers, Lightbearer and 1 or 2 others I can't remember, I can't tell the difference between a "real Mormon" ( in my mind those I listed epitomize LDS belief) and a parody of a Mormon believer. Really is there any difference between CSA (common sense, ya right) and LeSellers?
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I'm a "real Mormon" and my fridge is stocked with cold bottles of Coke. I'd give one to each of you if I could, and then teach you to sing in perfect harmony.
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kamenraider wrote:I'm a "real Mormon" and my fridge is stocked with cold bottles of Coke. I'd give one to each of you if I could, and then teach you to sing in perfect harmony.


In glass bottles from Mexico? I used to get them only in Mexican restaurants, now they're all over, even Pepsi tastes good in these bottles. Why can't you get them "made in the USA"????

Sorry you somehow slipped my list, but I don't recall anything from you that puts you in mind of those I listed??
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