The snake in the garden of eden

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Still hopping up and down over folks misquoting the passage.

The verse states "in the day that".....it doesn't say:

On that day
In that day
On that very day


or anything like that.

If I refer to "in the day of horse and buggy's"...is that a 24 hour day?
If I refer to "in the day of Noah"...is that a 24 hour day?
If I refer to "in the day of prohibition"...is that a 24 hour day?

If I say, as we often hear people do, "back in the day" or "back in my day"....is that referring to a 24 hour day?

Can't anyone frickin' read around here?

So "in the day" reasonably means 900 years? Sounds like the threat god made was pointless. If you tell a mortal that "in the day" they eat something they will die, I don't think any reasonable mortal would think to themselve "oh, he must mean in 900 years or so."

Yes, "in the day" that you eat the fruit would be logically the same 24 hour period of time. Horse and buggies existed for more than one 24 hour day. Thus, "in the day" of the horse and buggy would encompass all of those days. In the day you eat a piece of fruit is gonna only last one 24 hour time period.

Gen. 3: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Sounds poisonous, like a poisonous fruit.


Then, god finds out that they ate it and didn't die so he goes on a cursing rampage and gives them alternative punishments...since the death thing didn't work out.

[_cksalmon]

http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/nachashnotes.pdf

Heiser is never boring, though sometimes wrong.

Please note that my endorsement is not made in light of any personal embarrassment regarding a 'talking snake.'

I'll cop to that for whoever overturns his argument.

[_Chap]

Still hopping up and down over folks misquoting the passage.

The verse states "in the day that".....it doesn't say:

On that day
In that day
On that very day


or anything like that.

If I refer to "in the day of horse and buggy's"...is that a 24 hour day?
If I refer to "in the day of Noah"...is that a 24 hour day?
If I refer to "in the day of prohibition"...is that a 24 hour day?

If I say, as we often hear people do, "back in the day" or "back in my day"....is that referring to a 24 hour day?

Can't anyone frickin' read around here?

Doesn't anyone round here frickin' realise that Genesis 2:16 was written in Hebrew, and that there are other translations apart from KJV's rendering as: "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die"?

Such as for instance:

Good News: You must not eat the fruit of that tree; if you do, you will die the same day.

Contemporary English version: If you eat any fruit from that tree, you will die before the day is over!

I think there is clearly no case for saying that the Hebrew demands an interpretation of the kind you favor.

If you go here and search the KJV for the phrase 'in that day', you will see plenty of evidence that it usually functions as an equivalent for the modern English 'on that day'.

[_krose]

Doesn't anyone round here frickin' realise that Genesis 2:16 was written in Hebrew... ?

Nah, it was originally written in Adamic, same as the book of Ether. ;-)

Seriously, Jersey Girl's examples of "in the day of" and "back in the day" are idioms that (without researching it specifically) I believe are limited to English and perhaps its sister/cousin languages from western Europe (Germanic and Romantic).