Do we know whether or not Liz told or requested all of the invitees to keep the board a secret? I.e., did she request that they refrain from making any mention of it on MDB? Or did she say that she didn't want certain posters here to know about the existence of her board?
I don't know the answers to those questions, Scratch.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Those from Darth J down were not on the list when I previously viewed it on 9/12/2011. They've all been additions since it was exposed in this thread that such board existed. So my assertion needs to be viewed in light of the information on which it was based. While I see a few apostates above Darth J's name, the closest to a critic might be Blixa, The Dude and Ray Agostini--who certainly do not bear anywhere near the critic ardor that Daniel Peterson, the nehor, and ttribe do defender ardor. Firebrands of TBM, but none of critics? Very moderate (not).
Jersey Girl wrote:The ratio of critic:defender "ardor" that you see on this board is exactly the reason that liz and those who chose to accept her invitation wanted a more peaceful environment in which to discuss.
I don't know why you're criticizing those who chose to post on her board. She extended an invitation to several posters, not all chose to register there. Further, she encouraged those who chose to post to invite others. However the membership has "stacked up" is based on those who chose to register.
What is the issue here, sock? Apparently, we're all supposed to be joined at the hip here on MDB?
Is it just me or is this place becoming increasingly cult-like?
Sock Puppet wrote:One thing of acute interest in this regard. On 9/12/2011, when thecafteria was exposed, there were 39 registrants. Six have been added since 9/12/2011. That should mean that there are 45 registrants. But no, there are now just 28. That means 17 chose to delete their registrations when the fact of thecafeteria's existence came to light. Seventeen of 39 in six days. So I am not sure that your ratio--on those remaining after a defection of more than 40% has taken place--can be considered representative of what 'mix' liz was creating while yet undiscovered. In fact, she described it as "... since this board is a little more mature, and has some TBM's in the mix." She did not think it had critics--but of course, with her TBM envy, she'd only attribute 'maturity' to the fact there are 'some TBM's in the mix.' http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:guUN2v2QYYQJ:www.phpbbplanet.com/faithfulnomcom/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D675%26highlight%3D%26sid%3Dcce67827d06f9518eb
Actually, you are incorrect. There are 42 users on my board per my current board stats:
Number of posts: 1177 Posts per day: 14.70 Number of topics: 111 Topics per day: 1.39 Number of users: 42 Users per day: 0.52 Board started: 30 Jun 2011 11:49 pm Avatar directory size: Not available Database size: Not available Gzip compression: ON
However, 7 of these users have never posted. The member list only lists users who have actually posted. The complete list of users is only available to Admin.
sock puppet wrote:Name those that you are accusing anonymously. Present your evidence. And then I will respond. You see, unlike those that unflinchingly belief whatever may come out of the mouths of old fogies in Salt Lake City, I reserve my judgments until after I've examined evidence.
Let me get this straight. You want me to name an unknown person?
sock puppet wrote:One thing of acute interest in this regard. On 9/12/2011, when thecafteria was exposed, there were 39 registrants. Six have been added since 9/12/2011. That should mean that there are 45 registrants. But no, there are now just 28. That means 17 chose to delete their registrations when the fact of thecafeteria's existence came to light. Seventeen of 39 in six days. So I am not sure that your ratio--on those remaining after a defection of more than 40% has taken place--can be considered representative of what 'mix' liz was creating while yet undiscovered. In fact, she described it as "... since this board is a little more mature, and has some TBM's in the mix." She did not think it had critics--but of course, with her TBM envy, she'd only attribute 'maturity' to the fact there are 'some TBM's in the mix.' http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... d06f9518eb
You are becoming increasingly obsessive, sock. I'm not going to interact with you when you're doing this.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't know why you're criticizing those who chose to post on her board.
CFR. Where have I criticized anyone who chose to post on liz's board? I've criticized liz's duplicity in making the OP, when all along she had the continued wit and perspective of The Nehor, and she knew it. Unless it's her complaining that she no longer gets the benefit of his dismissive, condescending one-liners to critics here. But that was of her own making by not inviting critics who would take on The Nehor, not at least before the 9/12/2011 discovery of thecafeteria.
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't know why you're criticizing those who chose to post on her board.
CFR. Where have I criticized anyone who chose to post on liz's board? I've criticized liz's duplicity in making the OP, when all along she had the continued wit and perspective of The Nehor, and she knew it. Unless it's her complaining that she no longer gets the benefit of his dismissive, condescending one-liners to critics here. But that was of her own making by not inviting critics who would take on The Nehor, not at least before the 9/12/2011 discovery of thecafeteria.
sock, you are blathering about old fogies in SLC and examining evidence when you haven't bothered to read this very thread. You are taking my comments out of context and going to extremes that I'm not comfortable with.
Perhaps another time.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
sock puppet wrote:Name those that you are accusing anonymously. Present your evidence. And then I will respond. You see, unlike those that unflinchingly belief whatever may come out of the mouths of old fogies in Salt Lake City, I reserve my judgments until after I've examined evidence.
Let me get this straight. You want me to name an unknown person?
sock puppet wrote:One thing of acute interest in this regard. On 9/12/2011, when thecafteria was exposed, there were 39 registrants. Six have been added since 9/12/2011. That should mean that there are 45 registrants. But no, there are now just 28. That means 17 chose to delete their registrations when the fact of thecafeteria's existence came to light. Seventeen of 39 in six days. So I am not sure that your ratio--on those remaining after a defection of more than 40% has taken place--can be considered representative of what 'mix' liz was creating while yet undiscovered. In fact, she described it as "... since this board is a little more mature, and has some TBM's in the mix." She did not think it had critics--but of course, with her TBM envy, she'd only attribute 'maturity' to the fact there are 'some TBM's in the mix.' http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... d06f9518eb
You are becoming increasingly obsessive, sock. I'm not going to interact with you when you're doing this.
Let me get this straight. You want me to castigate an unknown person with no evidence of the offense you assume occurred, when there is an equally plausible explanation that no one betrayed liz's confidence and found thecafeteria through a Google search--yet you cannot even name this imagined traitor.
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't know why you're criticizing those who chose to post on her board.
CFR. Where have I criticized anyone who chose to post on liz's board? I've criticized liz's duplicity in making the OP, when all along she had the continued wit and perspective of The Nehor, and she knew it. Unless it's her complaining that she no longer gets the benefit of his dismissive, condescending one-liners to critics here. But that was of her own making by not inviting critics who would take on The Nehor, not at least before the 9/12/2011 discovery of thecafeteria.
How many times must I repeat myself, Sock? The fact that Nehor was contributing on MY board was immaterial to how I felt about Nehor leaving MDB. They are two different boards. They have different dynamics. My expressing regret that Nehor is no longer posting on MDB is not disingenuous. I'm sorry that you believe that it is.
What, exactly, are you hoping to accomplish with this conversation, Sock? What is it that you want from me?
See here, the current list of your 28 registrants.
The count was 39 on 9/14/2011 from this cached page.
So, why would one listing of registered users on 9/14/2011 give a count of 39 registered users, but now it shows but 27 registrants with dates through 9/14/2011 if you haven't had a defection? It sounds like a lot of folks--12 by my revised count--only wanted to participate in your secret combination so long as it could remain secret. Maybe you'd like to tell us who those 12 are that abandoned thecafeteria.
See here, the current list of your 28 registrants.
The count was 39 on 9/12/2011 from this cached page.
So, why would one listing of registered users on 9/12/2011 give a count of 39 registered users, but now only 28 if you haven't had a defection? It sounds like a lot of folks--17 by my count, considering the 6 new additions since 9/12/2011--only wanted to participate in your secret combination so long as it could remain secret.
Sock...by all means...if it comforts you to think that there was a mass "defection" from my site, then God bless.
Frankly, with the way you are obsessing at this point, it just sounds like you're pissed that you didn't get an invitation.
Ironically, my not inviting you initially was actually an oversight, simply because you hadn't been active on the board. But considering how much of an asshole you've been to me tonight, I'm sure as hell glad that invitation wasn't extended.