bcspace wrote: Sure. Titus 3:1. But I have never proposed anyone should be booted out. Simply that they go out of their own accord and come back in through the front door in order to be eligible for rights and benefits.
The authorities don't really care. The church is in favor of illegal immigration. Now what?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
bcspace wrote:Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. John 10:1
Peter laid out the punishment for distorting scripture. I assume you're prepared to pay the price.
Are you prepared to take the economic hit opening the border up completely would cause? I know some people don't pay taxes but for those that have to do so, the costs will go up. Only a few people benefitting from the cheap labor/cheap votes benefit from illegal immigration. It it weren't so, it would be legal.
There's nothing stopping you from giving your money to illegal immigrants now if you desire to do so. Trying to take it away from other US citizens to give it to illegal immigrants is not right.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
moksha wrote:Go forth, multiply and replenish the earth.
You forgot the part about sending them off for someone else to take care of.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote: Only a few people benefitting from the cheap labor/cheap votes benefit from illegal immigration. It it weren't so, it would be legal.
I just want to focus on the touching assumption that the US legislative process can be relied upon to produce laws which aim at the greatest happiness of the greatest number.
Is there some reason for believing that to be true, given the economic history of the last few years, under both Republican and Democratic administrations?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Curious, what gave you the "right" to live and work in America?
I'll answer it for him. It's my birthright. My ancestors conquered this land. That gave them the right that they left to me. Even the Greeks understood that borders and territory were necessary. The root cause of war is overpopulation because it makes it necessary for new people to invade another man's land. Which other country has absolutely no borders?
Do you believe in the free market? Do you believe in market competition?
We don't live in a free market economy. We live in a semisocialist welfare state that rewards irresponsible reproductive behavior.
Having a border is no different than when you refuse to give your money to a beggar on the street.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Is there some reason for believing that to be true, given the economic history of the last few years, under both Republican and Democratic administrations?
I would like to see a poll of how many US citizens are in favor of opening the border and offering welfare benefits to all who enter. Those who would be in favor of doing so probably do not understand the magnitude of the overpopulation problem in the third world. No matter how many of these people we take in, the situation in those countries does not improve. But many voters don't understand that the government paying for something means the taxpayer paying for something. Even so, I still would wager that the majority of Americans understand the consequences of illegal and mass immigration for the average middle class American. The law as it now stands is a consequence of that understanding. Failure to enforce the law is a demonstration of the shortcomings and imperfections in our system of government and the disproportionate power of a few loud special interest groups/factions.
I strongly feel that this is one issue where majority rule has been subverted in the interests of a few powerful people in the U.S both on the right and the left. What has happened with immigration appears to me to be the will of a powerful minority of greedy business owners, (i.e. George W. Bush). I just can't see how the majority of American voters are in favor of their own economic demise in order to build up the Latino population.
At this point it doesn't matter. As stated in the Book of Mormon, the remnant of the seed of Jacob has risen up like a lion amongst us and is breeding Anglo genetics and culture out of existence as we speak. English people gained a lot of land by aggressive breeding in the past. Now, we're being destroyed.
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And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote: Are you prepared to take the economic hit opening the border up completely would cause?
No. But then I don't give the Bible any authoritative weight.
Would you at least agree with me in saying that it's irresponsible of religions to encourage indigent people to have lots of children.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.