Infymus wrote:It is DCP's way of doing things. Just because in this particular post he didn't attack people doesn't mean he won't in another.
oh brother...
And to answer your prior question, I watch an amazing amount of material on the web that has to do with Mormonism. Ever heard of the Mormon Curtain? This particular piece caught my attention because DCP is using MST as a missionary tool in the comments section and then attacking anyone who dares stand up to him. And while he isn't being an ass in this piece, he has been in many other places because well, he is a pompous windbag, just as most Mormons are.
uh...do you know what projecting is? my goodness...
Anywhere DCP goes, I'm going to watch him. He knows that. If he doesn't want the attention, then he should go back to doing his real job at BYU, you know, the one that he actually gets paid for.
Maybe you should go back to your real job and stop pouting about anything and everything he does. But if that's what floats your boat...whatever. I'll point out the silliness as it surfaces and as I see fit, though.
Take care.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Buffalo wrote:You seem to be moving the goal posts
Not at all. I intended by saying "this type of thing" to mean complaining about some LDS person, including Peterson.
I see.
In any case, learning the difference between complaint and criticism might help you express yourself more clearly.
Complaint (ie, "whining"): statement of unhappiness: a statement expressing discontent or unhappiness about a situation expressing of unhappiness: the act of expressing discontent or unhappiness about a situation (Encarta.com)
Criticize: to consider the merits and demerits of and judge accordingly to find fault with – point out the faults of (Mirriam-Webster.com)
You quite often engage in the former (ie, Complaint; whining) when people here engage in the latter. I would suggest that the largest contributor of complaints (ie whining) on this board is actually YOU, Stem. No offense intended.
Buffalo wrote:You quite often engage in the former (ie, Complaint; whining) when people here engage in the latter. I would suggest that the largest contributor of complaints (ie whining) on this board is actually YOU, Stem. No offense intended.
Well of course you miss the obvious, buffalo. How many other ways can i put if for you? Peterson's rather innocuous comments are brought here and characterized as blasting others, and are twisted into something they were never intended to suggest. Somehow you painting that, or thinking that, as some sort of legitimate criticism is seen as a credible way to dialogue for you and other participators here. And somehow my challenging of your guys' whining is something other or worse than your actual petty whining.
Whatever, Buffalo. I know you mean no offense, but the extent of your bias, built up to this level, is offensive. Something has to be said in hopes you come back down to reality (I know how ironic that sounds coming from and LDS fellow, but perhaps that will explain your situation a little better).
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
by the way Buffalo did you see how infymus conceded that he goes out searching for Peterson's words in order to complain about them? This is a fine case of him blowing it out of proportion again right? Oh wait you seem to see it as some sort of legitimate criticism.
Oh boy...
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
stemelbow wrote: Can't some of you find a better approach?
Not that I have complained about Dan, but can't you find a better approach. I have noticed you go down the same path most defenders do here. You start by getting involved in substantive discussion and over time being beat down by the evidence you just start to whine and complain, especially in non-substantive ways. It's to bad.
stemelbow wrote:by the way Buffalo did you see how infymus conceded that he goes out searching for Peterson's words in order to complain about them? This is a fine case of him blowing it out of proportion again right? Oh wait you seem to see it as some sort of legitimate criticism.
Oh boy...
Okay, I suppose you could classify your posts and the OP as complaining (whining), but most of the posts in this thread are criticism.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
stemelbow wrote: Can't some of you find a better approach?
Not that I have complained about Dan, but can't you find a better approach. I have noticed you go down the same path most defenders do here. You start by getting involved in substantive discussion and over time being beat down by the evidence you just start to whine and complain, especially in non-substantive ways. It's to bad.
Yes, this seems to be the de-evolutionary process for many would-be defenders. They stop defending with arguments and start whining/trying to derail threads. I can sort of understand that - it's tough to defend Mormonism based on facts or logic.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Themis wrote:Not that I have complained about Dan, but can't you find a better approach. I have noticed you go down the same path most defenders do here. You start by getting involved in substantive discussion and over time being beat down by the evidence you just start to whine and complain, especially in non-substantive ways. It's to bad.
I'm amazed you're complaining about my approach when the common approach here is as the OP--complain about an LDS person or defender in a whiney way. When I point that out you guys complain about me. Why not acknowledge the source of the problem? Are you all that quick to view things through your own specialized pair of glasses?
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Buffalo wrote:Okay, I suppose you could classify your posts and the OP as complaining (whining), but most of the posts in this thread are criticism.
Wow...I'm just amazed you have finally conceded this, even if your characterization of what is criticism is off. Now if you guys could learn to point it out in your buddies before you jump all over me for pointing it out, we'd be getting somewhere.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Buffalo wrote:Yes, this seems to be the de-evolutionary process for many would-be defenders. They stop defending with arguments and start whining/trying to derail threads. I can sort of understand that - it's tough to defend Mormonism based on facts or logic.
Every once in a while I see some leaps forward here. I really do. I think if you guys would acknowledge that the whining and derailing is the very tone of this place, we'd be getting somewhere realy fast. I mean that. You acknowledge this very thread was created to do that which you complain LDS do. yet you wish to hold it all against defenders, attempting to paint it as an inherent fault among defenders (i"m sure because it makes you feel better to see it that way). But you fail to realize that the reason LDS tend to address the tone, the whiney hostile atmosphere of this place, is because its near impossible to navigate through the criticisms without having to wade through the much more prominent and much more direct complaining.
its a shame you guys are so blinded.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.