DCP Puts Odd Parameters on Evidence for Book of Mormon

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Re: DCP Puts Odd Parameters on Evidence for Book of Mormon

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stemelbow wrote:
Hey Scottie, I can agree with your approach in principle, but why are you assuming apologists think the general population should put any weight in the horse bones have not been found yet? I think the apologists approach is more along the lines of, "there has been reasons given to think there may have been horses in the americas pre-columbus. We don't have any archaeological reasons to see that, but there are other reasons. There may be bones out there somewhere verifying this. We simply don't' know. So we feel comfortable in the faith, for now."


I am unaware of any good reasons to think Horse existed in the Americas during Book of Mormon time lines. No horse remains, or cultural evidence that they existed is present. There may be is just playing the possibility game again. You can do this with anything.
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Morley wrote:
jon wrote:Okay, it's absolutely cast iron guaranteed authentic.
Would you stop believing?


stemelbow wrote:I would probably begin the process of halting belief in the Book of Mormon, sure. Cold turkey isn't all that easy. There is some good stuff in that there book.


Morley wrote:I'm checking here, Stem. You use the word "probably." What you seem to be saying is that, even with a "iron guaranteed authentic" disputation of the Book of Mormon, there's a possibility that you might not stop believing. Is this a fair characterization?


stemelbow wrote:No.


Please clarify.


No. Its not a fair characterization. "Probably" wasn't meant to suggest if the hypothetical came about that I'd waffle about it, per se, but it was used to suggest answering hypotheticals themselves are all just unsure guesses.
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Morning Stem,

Which option best describes how you would react to hearing Thomas S Monson standing up at Conference and saying that he has in his hand an authenticated original letter from Joseph Smith stating categorically that he made it all up - the Book of Mormon, Polygamy the lot.

1. You don't believe him and continue to be a practicing Mormon
2. You do believe him but continue to be a practicing Mormon
3. You do believe him but continue to practice some of Mormonism's teachings - the ones you like/think are good.
4. You do believe him and leave Mormonism for something else.

I will go first.
I pick option 3. I would stop going to Church, calling myself a Mormon etc. but continue to try and be a good person (as Mormonism teaches amongst other things) to my family, friends, colleagues and neighbours.

Your turn...
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jon wrote:Morning Stem,

Which option best describes how you would react to hearing Thomas S Monson standing up at Conference and saying that he has in his hand an authenticated original letter from Joseph Smith stating categorically that he made it all up - the Book of Mormon, Polygamy the lot.

1. You don't believe him and continue to be a practicing Mormon
2. You do believe him but continue to be a practicing Mormon
3. You do believe him but continue to practice some of Mormonism's teachings - the ones you like/think are good.
4. You do believe him and leave Mormonism for something else.

I will go first.
I pick option 3. I would stop going to Church, calling myself a Mormon etc. but continue to try and be a good person (as Mormonism teaches amongst other things) to my family, friends, colleagues and neighbours.

Your turn...


i don't know. Sorry, i don't see the point of playing these hypothetical games.

What if your grandma came to you, turned into a platypus, ate the pair of pants you were wearing and told you to jump on her back so she can take you to another planet?

My goodness who cares, my good man.
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stemelbow wrote:What if your grandma came to you, turned into a platypus, ate the pair of pants you were wearing and told you to jump on her back so she can take you to another planet?


My first question would be "Grandma, how did you get resurrected?"

Then, because I loved and trusted my Grandma, I would follow her wherever she wanted me to go.

My second question would be "Grandma, can I have my pants back"

As I sit here today, that is what I believe I would do if that situation happened.

Now I would respectfully ask you to keep my beloved Grandma, or any other family member that I may or may not have, out of any sarcastic or generally jerkish posts you make in my direction.
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jon wrote:Now I would respectfully ask you to keep my beloved Grandma, or any other family member that I may or may not have, out of any sarcastic or generally jerkish posts you make in my direction.


wow. I didn't' mean any disrespect. I didn't expect you to be so touchy on a silly hypothetical. didn't literally mean your grandma.

Sorry to have touched a nerve.
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Hello,

I motion to remove Mr. Scottie from Moderator status immediately for abusing his privileges as a Moderator, and negating to exercise due diligence.

Thank you in advance.

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stemelbow wrote:
i don't know. Sorry, i don't see the point of playing these hypothetical games.



Yet you love to play the possibility game to maintain beliefs. :)
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Themis wrote:
stemelbow wrote:
i don't know. Sorry, i don't see the point of playing these hypothetical games.



Yet you love to play the possibility game to maintain beliefs. :)


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Re: DCP Puts Odd Parameters on Evidence for Book of Mormon

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Themis wrote:
stemelbow wrote:
i don't know. Sorry, i don't see the point of playing these hypothetical games.



Yet you love to play the possibility game to maintain beliefs. :)


well, yes, there's a point to that in this arena.
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