stemelbow wrote:That's been the general concesus among LDS for me. I've read up on a few pieces written or presented by Apostles and others that describethis same type of sentiment.
I hope you are right about that, Stem.
Still I can't help remembering about ten years ago when a special priesthood session was called one Sunday evening at the stake center to discuss how we should defeat a ballot measure in our state for assisted suicide.
I left wondering whether the leaders wanted to make sure people had only violent options to end their life.
It sure didn't make sense to me.
Still doesn't.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
consiglieri wrote:I hope you are right about that, Stem.
Still I can't help remembering about ten years ago when a special priesthood session was called one Sunday evening at the stake center to discuss how we should defeat a ballot measure in our state for assisted suicide.
I left wondering whether the leaders wanted to make sure people had only violent options to end their life.
It sure didn't make sense to me.
Still doesn't.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Well, that's a different issue.
There have been numerous talks and pieces by LDS apostles and other general authorities over the years that express the same general theme you offer.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
consiglieri wrote:I hope you are right about that, Stem.
Still I can't help remembering about ten years ago when a special priesthood session was called one Sunday evening at the stake center to discuss how we should defeat a ballot measure in our state for assisted suicide.
--Consiglieri
Well, that's a different issue.
There have been numerous talks and pieces by LDS apostles and other general authorities over the years that express the same general theme you offer.
CFR
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Scottie wrote:While blessing my daughter, I had a fake pause like I had to re-compose myself. Everyone told me how moved they were and how powerful the spirit was during that blessing.
When speaking at my brothers funeral, I had a long pause, then said that the spirit just spoke to me and told me that I should tell the congergation that I went to the temple yesterday and prayed about his well-being (because he was a suicide), and that I received a strong feeling that everything was okay! I did go to the temple, and I did pray about him, but I never received anything that made me think he was okay... I had several people come up after and tell that I touched them and what a spiritual talk it was!
I "choked up" once while bearing my testimony in priesthood when I was 2nd counsellor.
I think I have a gift for the fake pause. Never got me laid though... :(
So you are a liar? That is ashame. Most likely you did give a spiritual talk about your brother with feeling. No need to fake information or a tear.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
stemelbow wrote:That's been the general concesus among LDS for me. I've read up on a few pieces written or presented by Apostles and others that describethis same type of sentiment.
I hope you are right about that, Stem.
Still I can't help remembering about ten years ago when a special priesthood session was called one Sunday evening at the stake center to discuss how we should defeat a ballot measure in our state for assisted suicide.
I left wondering whether the leaders wanted to make sure people had only violent options to end their life.
It sure didn't make sense to me.
Still doesn't.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Assisted suicide can also be assisted murder if one is not careful. If assisted suicide was legalized, very little would stand in the way of an assisted murder if one wishes to kill someone who is sick.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Scottie wrote:While blessing my daughter, I had a fake pause like I had to re-compose myself. Everyone told me how moved they were and how powerful the spirit was during that blessing.
When speaking at my brothers funeral, I had a long pause, then said that the spirit just spoke to me and told me that I should tell the congergation that I went to the temple yesterday and prayed about his well-being (because he was a suicide), and that I received a strong feeling that everything was okay! I did go to the temple, and I did pray about him, but I never received anything that made me think he was okay... I had several people come up after and tell that I touched them and what a spiritual talk it was!
I "choked up" once while bearing my testimony in priesthood when I was 2nd counsellor.
I think I have a gift for the fake pause. Never got me laid though... :(
So you are a liar?
A product of his Mormon culture, yes. That pretty much make him a liar. Fine observation.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
consiglieri wrote: Why is it Mormons think suicide has such negative eternal ramifications when there is nothing in any of the four standard works mentioning it?
I think that, of all people, those who are so distraught as to take their own life deserve most the sympathies of God and man.
--Consiglieri
Since human life is precious and a gift one should not kill oneself. It goes that way. However, I don't think that the LDS church condemns someone is has been deemed clinically depressed. But people do kill themselves if they lose their money or house or job. Or if they are getting divorced etc. There are a host of reasons for commiting suicide that may not be deemed understandable.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith