Peterson at it again, blasting away in the comments

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Re: Peterson at it again, blasting away in the comments

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Simon Belmont wrote:Here is the bottom line: DCP, just like anyone else, has the freedom to do whatever he wants within the boundaries of the law. It is not your job to deny him, or anyone else, anything!


Simon, does Infymus have the exact same rights that you claim for DCP, namely "to do whatever he wants within the boundaries of the law"?

If so, can you point to anything Infymus has done to breach those rights?
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jon wrote:Oh Stem, that's disappointing.
I kind of figured you for a double standards kind of a guy, but I'd hoped I was wrong.

Oh well...that's cool...I guess...


I have no double standard on this at all. As I said to buffalo, even at MDD I have stuck up for critics who I deemed as being mistreated. But that's realy not the point here anyway. My point is to do away with the bad atmosphere. The atmosphere is bad because, if you ask me, critics whine incessantly about LDS people for often the most petty of reasons. See the OP as an example. If I can get some of the critics to see that, then I'm haflway there. It'll just be a few more steps into making htis a better place.

I personally don't see much of the same from LDS posters, but if I do I'll do my best to point it out.
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stemelbow wrote:
jon wrote:Stem,

I've been searching through your posts on this board and I cannot find one where you call out any Apologist for whining. There must be one because you state that you don't like hypocrisy. Can you point me in the right direction so that I can admire you 'going after' them?


pep pep...nice try, jon.


Not sure what you mean here, Stem. Are you saying you have no posts where you do that?
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Morley wrote:Not sure what you mean here, Stem. Are you saying you have no posts where you do that?


Of course I'm not saying that. You are free to read my latest reply to jon for clarification. Also, I do recall some months ago, I got after some LDS posters, Nomad and Will, for their treatment of critics.

If you're truly that curious I can look it up. But, as I suggested to Jon, that's really not my point.
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stemelbow wrote:
Morley wrote:Not sure what you mean here, Stem. Are you saying you have no posts where you do that?


If you're truly that curious I can look it up.


Yes please, I'd like to see a post where you complain to an Apologist about their whining.
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Hello,

I find it hard to believe people believe Mr. Peterson believes what he's selling. He clearly understands from whence his generous paycheck comes and tows the party line because he ain't butterin' his own bread.

V/R
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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stemelbow wrote:I'm not sure what more to say, Themis. I provided the reasons why this thread, as started, did not make a good case at all. I provided the reasons why its problematic. I really don't think you'll read things in a more appropriate way either. That's why I bring this stuff up. You'll causually come in a comment about me, when this thread is nothing but an unadulterated twisting attack on DCP. And yet, you wish me to change my approach. Its amazing to me that you will not recognize the problems and instead focus on me. This place is ultimate in hypocritical and nonsubstantive--and yet you wish to complain about those characteristics in me. Yahooo...I ain't the problem. I'm commenting on the problem.


This is your OP

Man, some of yas will dig up anything he says. I wonder if anything he writes to anyone anywhere will get sniffed up by some of you guys. Its amazing. On top of that, no matter what he says you guys will have something to comment on, something to mock, something to complain about. Its an adorable show.


Why is it that I always have to show you what you actually said? Again you would do better to use substance as to why they are wrong, but I have noticed you don't seem interested.

You know...Its helpful that you attack me and Simon. But I don't care for it.


It's not an attack, but an observation. You sure like to call everything an attack if people disagree with you.

This is akin to Buffalo saying something along the lines of 'I see Scratch and Peterson as the same.' orwhatever he said. The majority of this is coming from the critics of LDS. What am I to respond to unless its attacks on LDS people or myself around here? Very little. Sure there is some, but often, even that, is peppered with ad hom complaints about DCP or some other LDS.


Why is it that I am the one being called biased, when I am also the one who can see it comes from both sides. I have spent plenty of time over at Mad in the past, and saw more of it there, but that was becuase believing members out numbered those who no longer believed.

Try to be more like you? No thanks, but no offense. I find your tack off-putting, biased and weird.


I did suggest who to be more like, but it was not me. Why is it weird to suggest you take a better approach that could bring you some credibility and might actually have some success. You like to suggest that of others, but hate it when others suggest it to you. Oh well, I tried. Hope things are well with you.
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jon wrote:It has. Lots of times.
What you mean is, it hasn't been proven false to YOU.


Show me where? If it's been "lots of times" surely you will have no problem pointing me to something that definitively demonstrates the church is false.

jon wrote:Simon, does Infymus have the exact same rights that you claim for DCP, namely "to do whatever he wants within the boundaries of the law"?

If so, can you point to anything Infymus has done to breach those rights?


If I had said such a thing, this wouldn't be a strawman.

The fact is that Infymus is whining about 3 posts by DCP on a news website. THREE POSTS. I mean, seriously, how can you be that obsessed with someone that you follow them around the Internet.

Infymus, get a life dude. He posted 3 out of 386 posts. They weren't rude or off topic in any way. Why are you bitching about a .0077 posting ratio?
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stemelbow wrote:
I have no double standard on this at all. As I said to buffalo, even at MDD I have stuck up for critics who I deemed as being mistreated. But that's realy not the point here anyway. My point is to do away with the bad atmosphere. The atmosphere is bad because, if you ask me, critics whine incessantly about LDS people for often the most petty of reasons.


You do whine about whining a lot. I do see believing members whining about critics. I have seen some nasty attacks on Kevin and beastie among others. Believing members attack critics a lot on Mad, and critics here attack a lot on apologists. It really has to do with numbers.

See the OP as an example. If I can get some of the critics to see that, then I'm haflway there. It'll just be a few more steps into making htis a better place.


You won't be able to with the kind of posts you provided. Now I was surprised that Simon was asking some questions of clarification, even if it was attacking Infymus at the same time.
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I smell a turd, smells like Belmont...

Nothing stinks up a thread worse than DCP than Simon does.
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