Envy of Non-Members

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_Themis
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Re: Envy of Non-Members

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why me wrote:People who are envious of those who are out there having sex with many partners do not understand that sex does not exactly lead to happiness.


Why is it always you and fiann who seem so fixated on sex. When it comes to happiness, I think they understand quite well, just as people can understand that many other fun nice things or activities are not necessarily going to lead to long lasting happiness. Nothing in life is going to make people happy all the time. Sex is a fun activity, and I know many if not most converts who had plenty before converting don't appear to really regret it.

Many youth are contacting diseases from sex. And some young girls get pregnant. And when one does catch herpes or HIV the virus with that person until death.


So? It is irrelevant to the OP. We all know their are potential consequences to having sex, even for married people. Religion does not try to control sexual activity of it's members becuase of any physical consequences that may result of sexual activity. Masturbation is the safest form of sexual activity, and is healthy, yet many religions including LDS view it as sinful behavior. This to is an activity that some members will be envious of friends being able to enjoy guilt free.

We tend not to think of the consequences of our actions but we can be envious of the free spirit just as the free spirit can be envious of a different lifestyle.


My experience does not support the free spirit being as envious of more constrained people, especially religiously constrained. Free spirits can also recognize the many physical consequences of certain actions, and avoid or take steps to greatly reduce the risk. Think of Mountain climbing. It certainly is more risky then most sports, but can be very fun, enjoyable and safe if done right.
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Re: Envy of Non-Members

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Hoops wrote:
That's a laugh. The biggest skanks I knew were LDS. They just didn't advertise it.


If you say so, it must be true. Skanks are everywhere. But the young people in the video are less likely to catch a std.
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[quote="Hoops"
That's a laugh. The biggest skanks I knew were LDS. They just didn't advertise it.[/quote]

Fact is that premarital sex is lowest among LDS youth and EV youth than it is in the general population.
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It sure seems that way to me as well Jason. You don't get kicked out of church or penalized for premarital sex in other religions as severely as you do in the LDS church.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Fact is that premarital sex is lowest among LDS youth and EV youth than it is in the general population.


Hoops didn't listen to the video. There was only one Mormon on it. The rest were from other faiths who promised to remain pure.
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ajax18 wrote:It sure seems that way to me as well Jason. You don't get kicked out of church or penalized for premarital sex in other religions as severely as you do in the LDS church.


I don't think that the LDS church is that stricked anymore. I think that one reason for remaining pure is because of the desire to live the commandments. Also, when one is young, sex is not what it promises. I think that most LDS youth and young adults know this.
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why me wrote:
I don't think that the LDS church is that stricked anymore.

Frankly, I don't think much of anything is all that "stricked."
why me wrote:....Also, when one is young, sex is not what it promises. ....


This certainly was not (and is still not) my experience.
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Morley wrote:
This certainly was not (and is still not) my experience.


Are you 15?
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why me wrote:
Morley wrote:
This certainly was not (and is still not) my experience.


Are you 15?


Far, far from it. But if I were, would it invalidate my comment?
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Morley wrote:Frankly, I don't think much of anything is all that "stricked."


Sorry, teacher... I will do better now. Strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict...can I sit down now at my desk or should I write it some more...okay teacher I will write ten more...strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict, strict...what is that teacher? One more for good luck..okay...strict. Now can I sit down...thank you teacher.

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