Nuggets from Conference

[_Buffalo]

I like how Monson came down against The Beatles and their sentiment, "All You Need Is Love." Man doesn't know his audience. I'm sure the few surviving people his age were cheering, though. "Stick it to those shaggy-haired hippies!"

[_hatersinmyward]

That doesn't make any sense though, What If your patriarchal blessing says in plain English that you are going to witness the second coming of Jesus Christ before you die?

It probably said the same thing in his own patriarchal blessing, he has kids, grand kids, great grand kids, he waited and waited and no Jesus. But he gets to be the higher power for millions of people, naw... that's just too darn twisted...

[_Buffalo]

Apparently Packers just told the youth that Christ isn't coming anytime soon. He stated that they would see their Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren without any second coming.

Smart move! He's made a true prophecy and will go into the prophecy hall of fame for it.

Word! I'm going to go one step further though. I prophecy that Jesus will NEVER come back. Because he's dead.

I'm going to go down in history as the greatest prophet of the ages. :)

[_hatersinmyward]

Did Elder Holland say the church has decided to lower the standards/bar for missionary work?

Didn't they just raise the bar?

[_gramps]

I thought Anderson gave a very clear summation of the Church's position on having children. In short he stated that the Church believes:
1. Having children is the purpose of being on Earth
2. Is what we were created to do
3. You should be married before having children
4. You should go about this duty early
5. Financial restrictions should not hold you back

He added some very clear caveats to these statements:
1. It is up to individual couples to decide when to have children and how many to have, but that they should consult with the Lord about it.
2. Those couples and individuals who, for whatever reason, cannot have children in this life will get the chance to do so in the next.

I thought it was one of the clearest statements on a sensitive topic of debate and discussion within the religion. People may not like or agree with it, but we cannot say we don't know what the Church's position is.

I thought it was a good talk.

I sense, though I admit I may be wrong, that you caught the total, and intentional, mindfuck that his talk was. My God, you might be led to think after that disaster that he has no clue how much this problem has caused some very serious conflict and problems in young families.

I got the sense he was almost laughing it off, trying to be cute. What an asshole!

[_Equality]

The only nuggets I am aware of from General Conference this weekend:

[_DarkHelmet]

I thought Anderson gave a very clear summation of the Church's position on having children. In short he stated that the Church believes:
1. Having children is the purpose of being on Earth
2. Is what we were created to do
3. You should be married before having children
4. You should go about this duty early
5. Financial restrictions should not hold you back

He added some very clear caveats to these statements:
1. It is up to individual couples to decide when to have children and how many to have, but that they should consult with the Lord about it.
2. Those couples and individuals who, for whatever reason, cannot have children in this life will get the chance to do so in the next.

I thought it was one of the clearest statements on a sensitive topic of debate and discussion within the religion. People may not like or agree with it, but we cannot say we don't know what the Church's position is.

I thought it was a good talk.

some random GA saying something in GC does not make it the church's position. The apologists have made that very clear.

[_DarkHelmet]

Apparently Packers just told the youth that Christ isn't coming anytime soon. He stated that they would see their Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren without any second coming.

Strange. Is he saying god has spoken to him on this topic? If god has not spoken to him about when he is returning, why would Packer dare make this statement? Maybe he knows it is all BS so he can say stuff like this without risk.

[_jon]

I thought Anderson gave a very clear summation of the Church's position on having children. In short he stated that the Church believes:
1. Having children is the purpose of being on Earth
2. Is what we were created to do
3. You should be married before having children
4. You should go about this duty early
5. Financial restrictions should not hold you back

He added some very clear caveats to these statements:
1. It is up to individual couples to decide when to have children and how many to have, but that they should consult with the Lord about it.
2. Those couples and individuals who, for whatever reason, cannot have children in this life will get the chance to do so in the next.

I thought it was one of the clearest statements on a sensitive topic of debate and discussion within the religion. People may not like or agree with it, but we cannot say we don't know what the Church's position is.

I thought it was a good talk.

I sense, though I admit I may be wrong, that you caught the total, and intentional, mind**** that his talk was. My God, you might be led to think after that disaster that he has no clue how much this problem has caused some very serious conflict and problems in young families.

I got the sense he was almost laughing it off, trying to be cute. What an asshole!

No, please don't get me wrong. I do not believe the Church is true, nor do I believe that the Prophets and Apostles are actually led by God.
But I did think Anderson's talk had clarity on what the Church thinks on this subject. You and I may not agree with him on it, he may have put it across like he was talking to Primary kids, but he didn't try to fudge it.

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

I like how Monson came down against The Beatles and their sentiment, "All You Need Is Love." Man doesn't know his audience. I'm sure the few surviving people his age were cheering, though. "Stick it to those shaggy-haired hippies!"

Damn anti-Beatle.