Ideas to Make General Conference Better

[_hatersinmyward]

And we know the Brotheren read these posts!

[_schreech]

In other words, Consig is.....a teacher. ;-)

Damn straight...Apparently will/nomad equate boring with "spiritual"....Its sad that he has been conditioned to believe that the spirit is only present is mind-numbing, correlated lessons by teachers with no teaching skills...

[_Nomad]

I am obsessed with learning everything I can about the great and marvelous thing we call the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I am obsessed with teaching nothing but the truth.

Translation: "I have all kinds of heterodox personal interpretations of gospel doctrines, and I simply love to have a soap box where I can impose them on the confused members of my ward."

I am obsessed with making class interesting and something that people would look forward to attending.

I am obsessed with being the best teacher I can be.

Translation: "I think I’m a lot more interesting and a lot better teacher than I really am."

I am obsessed with magnifying my spiritual gifts as set forth in my patriarchal blessing.

"And that’s why I spend so much time criticizing the church, and it’s leaders, and it’s boring general conferences, and it’s doctrines and policies I don’t agree with. It’s why I hang out on this message board that is dominated by apostate Mormons and those who sympathize with them. They praise me for being a great Latter-day Saint and a great teacher and reassure me that I was only released from my calling as the gospel doctrine teacher because my bishop and stake president are clueless idiots who exemplify the kinds of Mormons that are keeping the church from becoming what I, with my superior intellect and spiritual gifts, know it could and should be."

[_jon]

Do you all remember those threads recently that asked if this place had gotten more acrimonious since the notable fleeing of apologia?

Most responses I think said that actually the board had become more objective, substantive and more polite since they left.

Welcome back Will...err...Nomad.

[_consiglieri]

Translation: "I have all kinds of heterodox personal interpretations of gospel doctrines, . . . ."

We are not so much concerned with whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox, as we are that you shall have thoughts.

--Hugh B. Brown, First Presidency Counselor, (1969)

[_Buffalo]

Translation: "I have all kinds of heterodox personal interpretations of gospel doctrines, . . . ."

We are not so much concerned with whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox, as we are that you shall have thoughts.

--Hugh B. Brown, First Presidency Counselor, (1969)

Will would have given Brother Brown great cause for concern.

[_Nomad]

Translation: "I have all kinds of heterodox personal interpretations of gospel doctrines, . . . ."

We are not so much concerned with whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox, as we are that you shall have thoughts.

--Hugh B. Brown, First Presidency Counselor, (1969)

Sure, you can have allthe heterodox thoughts you want to. That doesn't mean you get the right to teach them from a soap box in gospel doctrine class. Don't get me wrong, I think you have had a lot of very good observations that I have seen over the years. I say that sincerely. I've been very impressed at times with things you have had to say. But I also think there are a bunch of very wrong ideas mixed in with your good ones. You are also a notorious fault finder towards both your local leaders and general authorities of the church. From my viewpoint, you act as though you think you have a better grasp on gospel doctrine and scriptural exegesis than church leadership does. On occasion, you could be right. But in my opinion, more often than not you are wrong and your criticism of the prophets and apostles and church teachings/policies is very, very wrong.

I hope you come to see where you've been wrong and change your ways. But from what I've seen of you on this message board in the past year, it looks like things are getting worse instead of better. From what I have seen, you are more and more making common cause with people who are avowed enemies of the church. That goes way beyond having "heterodox thoughts". It is apostasy. I hope you don't slide all the way to the point of persecuting the saints and fighting against God. But it sure looks like you're moving in that direction.

[_consiglieri]

Sure, you can have allthe heterodox thoughts you want to. That doesn't mean you get the right to teach them from a soap box in gospel doctrine class.

Perhaps a little context will help:

One of the most important things in the world is freedom of the mind; from this all other freedoms spring. Such freedom is necessarily dangerous, for one cannot think right without running the risk of thinking wrong, but generally more thinking is the antidote for the evils that spring from wrong thinking. More thinking is required, and we call upon you students to exercise your God-given right to think through every proposition that is submitted to you and to be unafraid to express your opinions, with proper respect for those to whom you talk and proper acknowledgment of your own shortcomings.

We live in an age when freedom of the mind is suppressed over much of the world. We must preserve this freedom in the Church and in America and resist all efforts of earnest men to suppress it, for when it is suppressed, we might lose the liberties vouchsafed in the Constitution of the United States.

Preserve, then, the freedom of your mind in education and in religion, and be unafraid to express your thoughts and to insist upon your right to examine every proposition. We are not so much concerned with whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox as we are that you shall have thoughts.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Nomad]

Sure, you can have allthe heterodox thoughts you want to. That doesn't mean you get the right to teach them from a soap box in gospel doctrine class.

Perhaps a little context will help:

One of the most important things in the world is freedom of the mind; from this all other freedoms spring. Such freedom is necessarily dangerous, for one cannot think right without running the risk of thinking wrong, but generally more thinking is the antidote for the evils that spring from wrong thinking. More thinking is required, and we call upon you students to exercise your God-given right to think through every proposition that is submitted to you and to be unafraid to express your opinions, with proper respect for those to whom you talk and proper acknowledgment of your own shortcomings.

We live in an age when freedom of the mind is suppressed over much of the world. We must preserve this freedom in the Church and in America and resist all efforts of earnest men to suppress it, for when it is suppressed, we might lose the liberties vouchsafed in the Constitution of the United States.

Preserve, then, the freedom of your mind in education and in religion, and be unafraid to express your thoughts and to insist upon your right to examine every proposition. We are not so much concerned with whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox as we are that you shall have thoughts.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

I hope you take every opportunity to express your thoughts from your seat on the back row of the gospel doctrine class. When you are especially controversial, be sure to report your naughtiness on this message board and receive in return the back slapping praise that you can always count on from your apostate friends here. I've noticed that the approval of these people is very important to you.

[_jon]

Conference would be improved if the Prophet gave an accounting of the...Erm...profit.

Most business conferences have a financial section.
You know, how sales are doing, market share, new builds etc.

Perhaps it would be interesting to give an overview of the amount of donations received and a little pie chart showing how it's been distributed.

Also...

In the voting section, how do they know if anyone around the world has 'opposed' the sustaining?