Boyd K. Packer says the end is NOT NEAR

[_hugh jass]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52664 ... e.html.csp

I guess Jesus is too busy to end this world..

[_Hughes]

From the Article:

When he was 17, the Japanese launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. Within a short time, the U.S. declared war on that Asian nation and joined the battles in Europe. He and many other religious young people thought perhaps this might be the end of the world prophesied in scripture.

The difference between then and now, is that Israel is a country once again, fulfilling Ezekiel 37.

Next is the agreement or "decree" to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. I have a hard time thinking that Islam will wait much longer.

[_Infymus]

So do thousands of Mormons get rewrites on their patriarchal blessings? Or do they just get chocked up to "not being worthy enough".

Same bunch of crap, different year.

Joseph Smith said Christ would be there by year, what 18xx? Didn't happen. Decade after decade Mormons were told both in GC and in their PBs that they were the "Chosen Generation" and many were told they would see Christ.

Oops.

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[_jon]

Are there any quotes from other General Conferences where a GA informs the membership specifically that these are the last days and that Christs coming is not very far away?

Are there any specific quotes on this subject from Patriarchal blessings that people feel willing to share?

[_Buffalo]

http://LDS.org/general-conference/1975/ ... =last+days

In accordance with latter-day revelation from the Lord, we are living in the last days of the dispensation of the fulness of times.

[_madeleine]

Most Mormons I know have a hobby of looking for "signs of the times". My mother, who is very, very uber-TBM, said to me not more than a month ago, that Christ might come before I am as old as she is.

But I understand what Pres. Packer is getting at. Years ago, I had a friend who didn't buy anything, rented his house for something like 20 years, didn't even a have a bank account, didn't worry about saving for the future, because he was absolutely convinced that the world was going to end very soon. He has since died, but, if LDS kids are so inclined to believe what they have been taught, and are looking at the "signs of the times", I can see how some would be inclined to sit and wait it out, so to speak, and not make any plans for a future that doesn't include anything that resembles life as we know it.

Such a head trip.

[_Nomad]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52664839-78/church-lds-packer-temple.html.csp

I guess Jesus is too busy to end this world..

I don't agree with Peggy Stack's interpretation of what President Packer said. Ididn't get that he was saying the second coming was so far off that it wouldn't happen before young people today had great-greandchildren, only that they shouldn't spend their days worrying about it. I understood it in the context of the scripture that says of those who are alive at the second coming:

D&C 45:56-58

56 And at that day, when I shall come in my glory, shall the parable be fulfilled which I spake concerning the ten virgins.

57 For they that are wise and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide, and have not been deceived—verily I say unto you, they shall not be hewn down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day.

58 And the earth shall be given unto them for an inheritance; and they shall multiply and wax strong, and their children shall grow up without sin unto salvation.

But hand it to the anti-mormons to twist his words for their own purposes, just like they always do.

[_madeleine]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52664839-78/church-lds-packer-temple.html.csp

I guess Jesus is too busy to end this world..

I don't agree with Peggy Stack's interpretation of what President Packer said. Ididn't get that he was saying the second coming was so far off that it wouldn't happen before young people today had great-greandchildren, only that they shouldn't spend their days worrying about it. I understood it in the context of the scripture that says of those who are alive at the second coming:

D&C 45:56-58

56 And at that day, when I shall come in my glory, shall the parable be fulfilled which I spake concerning the ten virgins.

57 For they that are wise and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide, and have not been deceived—verily I say unto you, they shall not be hewn down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day.

58 And the earth shall be given unto them for an inheritance; and they shall multiply and wax strong, and their children shall grow up without sin unto salvation.

But hand it to the anti-Mormons to twist his words for their own purposes, just like they always do.

I don't think Peggy Stack as ever written any anti-anything. She is a very good religious reporter, IMNHO.

I think the importance is context, and that Pres. Packer was speaking in a LDS context, which is, the world as we know it is ending. However, his talk taken alone, outside of this context, certainly appears to be saying the saints are no longer living in the latter-days.

[_Buffalo]

Most Mormons I know have a hobby of looking for "signs of the times". My mother, who is very, very uber-TBM, said to me not more than a month ago, that Christ might come before I am as old as she is.

But I understand what Pres. Packer is getting at. Years ago, I had a friend who didn't buy anything, rented his house for something like 20 years, didn't even a have a bank account, didn't worry about saving for the future, because he was absolutely convinced that the world was going to end very soon. He has since died, but, if LDS kids are so inclined to believe what they have been taught, and are looking at the "signs of the times", I can see how some would be inclined to sit and wait it out, so to speak, and not make any plans for a future that doesn't include anything that resembles life as we know it.

Such a head trip.

Yeah, that's what the JWs have been doing for a long time. They even discourage people from going to college. It hasn't worked out well for them.

[_Nomad]

I don't think Peggy Stack as ever written any anti-anything.

I very much disagree. I think Stack writes anti-mormon stuff all the time. In fact, I think most of her articles have some kind of hostile intent towards the church. Not 100% of them. But a lot of them. Most of them, I think. She is obviously not a believing LDS. She might be some kind of NOM, or cultural Mormon. But from my viewpoint, she has an underlying agenda that it more or less anti-mormon. Whenever there is something controversial in the news, like the so-called gay "bishopric member" in San Francisco, I know that Stack is going to be coming out with an article that tends to paint the church in a bad light. She's very reliable in that respect.