Why does Monson hate the phrase "all you need is love"?

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Re: Why does Monson hate the phrase "all you need is love"?

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harmony wrote:
Good grief. C'mon people! Find something legit to complain about.


I'm getting pretty tired of Harmony and her opinions.












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And I applaud Droopy for exposing Beatles songs as the socialist propaganda that they are.
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Joseph Antley wrote:I seriously doubt that President Monson really considers the lyric to be a deep political or religious opinion at all. His mention of it in the talk was intended to be humorous, in my opinion.


Good point. If I were his speech writer, the last line of the sentence would have read, "... you also need to pay tithing".

Love of God and others was Jesus primary message, but we do need much more than that.
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Re: Why does Monson hate the phrase "all you need is love"?

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Keep fighting those longhairs, Droopy.



Don't worry about it, Buff, just keep regurgitating the polemical drive-by slogans and can't you absorb from others here, and don't bother yourself too much with doing your own thinking.

It can be a real challenge.
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Old Beatles songs are now considered harmless and kid friendly. Little girls and their moms watch contestants sing those songs on American Idol. I'm not sure why the old geezers are still fighting the hippies in 2011. I suppose they also have a problem with Elvis the Pelvis.



Move along, nothing - nothing - to see here...
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Christ said, "Come follow me, The works that I do do ye also, Take no thought for you life...but seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself."

Nothing mindless about that.


Yes, but now connect this biblical teaching to the song lyrics, or rather, extract it from those lyrics (especially within the context of the rest of the song).

The Brethren say, "keep your eye on the Prophet, the church can never lead you astray, follow your file leader, stay the steady course, all conference talks are given by the power of the Spirit, this is a grrrrrrrrreat conference."

All mindless platitudes. Quite silly knowing that nobody actually advances a scratch.


And now, back to our regularly scheduled anti-Mormon platitudes...
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I lost my decoder ring. All I see is gibberish here.



An excellent appraisal of your post and your response to mine, for which I commend you.
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Darth J wrote:And I applaud Droopy for exposing Beatles songs as the socialist propaganda that they are.




CFR?
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Nope. The above verse set is just one of many requirements, many of which are mentioned in the Bible. Baptism and marriage for example.

See bolding. You are the one who chose this quotation in the context of this thread.

Still, why should I demand that you should make sense?


How does the bolding advance your case? Where does Matthew 25 preclude baptism or marriage?
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Re: Why does Monson hate the phrase "all you need is love"?

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Chap wrote:So according to this quotation [i.e. the sheep and goats parable cited by bcspace], you don't need to be baptized, you don't need to believe in any deity, you certainly don't need special handshakes or passwords to get into heaven.


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bcspace wrote:
Nope. The above verse set is just one of many requirements, many of which are mentioned in the Bible. Baptism and marriage for example.


See bolding. You are the one who chose this quotation in the context of this thread.

Still, why should I demand that you should make sense?


bcspace wrote:How does the bolding advance your case? Where does Matthew 25 preclude baptism or marriage?


Is bcspace a chatbot? This is getting almost as bad as talking to Hoops.

According to this quotation (Remember? It's the sheep and goats parable.) Jesus says that when he comes to judge the world he will divide all people into two groups. One group will consist of all the people who did kind acts for others in need (feeding the hungry and so on). The other group will consist of those who failed to do such acts.

First group goes to heaven, second group goes to hell. Finito. No other criteria such as baptism, religious belief, secret handshakes etc. mentioned according to this quotation, which you rather strangely cited to contradict the idea that 'all you need is love'.

I don't deny that the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the corpus of LDS revelation taken as a whole may suggest that your deity has other requirements for getting a high-class afterlife, which contradict what this parable says. That's your problem, not mine, since I don't believe we can assume that the entire corpus of such writings represents a consistent divine message, as opposed to just being a bunch of stuff that different people wrote.

But according to this quotation, those things are not crucial in deciding who gets into heaven, since they are not mentioned. It's just two groups: people who did kind stuff go to heaven, those who didn't don't.

I trust I have made my point clear?
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