SUPREME BEING (the ONE GOD) x Distinct Gods x TREE OF LIFE

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Re: SUPREME BEING (the ONE GOD) x Distinct Gods x TREE OF LIFE

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ELYSAB wrote:When Israel was celebrating 50 years anniversary of its restoration as independent political nation, I made available some studies about what is to be a Jew person for the state of Israel, as local or worldwide citizen and such material was made available in Israel. Some persons got "angry" with some pictures of some "Israelites" praying next to the ruins of the Second Temple.

And I provided some clues (not religious one) about who were in fact "traditional Israelites" and those who were quite like recent converted ones, without true links with Israel people. Quite like as if a person that entered into USA without a valid passport, at least for religious purposes, as they were at the remains of the second temple...

Others persons just had fun and accepted that as "mockery", from a friend of South America, from a "Lamanite", that had a son with a woman quite like Jewish from a very old, very ancient Jewish family from the Babylon days before the return to Israel... (from KOCHake = KOCH aches, "Kochake's", a double joined surname = Jewish: some Jews have the first part=KOCH, others have the last part of it...).

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Happy New Year from friends of Year... with FACE IDENTIFICATION...

One day some Jews asked to the Arab Prophet, Muhammad, how could he identify and separate ARABS and ISRAELITES, just looking at their faces? (It was never imposed the VEIL for the women by the ARAB Prophet... That was by the Persians, much latter death of Prophet...).

The Prophet answered that it was very easy. Even before they were born, the Lord knew they were a very rebelled and obstinated people. Thus the Lord ordered that when they were born they receive the Lord's mark, as if the mark that is put when a cattle is born. Thus an incandescent iron mark is put on the skin of the cattle to mark them for life. The same the angels do for the Israelites. They receive an incandescent like iron mark on their faces near their noses, on their faces. That is to make it easier for the angels hunter to find and gather back them as a herd, Lord's heard.

Thus all Israelites, if they know or not, they are a rebelled cattle, and they are born "marked" with Lord's mark, as if of a special "herd" and there is no way they can hide mixing with other cattle. They are private and special property of Lord's cattle. They are well "marked".

It appears it tribe has one type of "mark" for their members. Maybe it is like the type of horn or height or breast/milk production, width, length, skin color, weight, behavior, etc. coupled to the "face incandescent mark".

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This is for an INDIAN MAYAN person. It was made studies for Indians persons for several tribes of USA and CANADA and their tentative Israel's tribes. Quite like this following study.

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This HUPA Indian woman appears to be of BENJAMIM tribe...
Instead of the Church's way, it is introduced the Cattle raises way, of the mixed tribes, with a DOMINANT RACE and TRIBE in the sons.
Most of these materials were destroyed with end of Geocities...

What would the MEANING of the FIGURES (above and below the marks, like DAVID's STAR and the CROWN) that are GENERATED from the FIGURES that "originated" on FACES? Some are just STRAIGHT LINES, like for the EPHRAIM TRIBE (not to "rule/govern" Israel...?).


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Re: SUPREME BEING (the ONE GOD) x Distinct Gods x TREE OF LIFE

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Did somebody do a little too much LDS in the 60's?
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
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consiglieri wrote:Did somebody do a little too much LDS in the 60's?

LDS can certainly mess up your mind, make you see things that aren't there and give you a warped sense of your own power. It's extremely dangerous, for sure.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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How could it looks like, speculatively speaking, the God Creator of our SPIRITS, Man of Holiness and Women of Holiness, our Heavenly Fathers, as when They Created us in a Temple in Heavenly Jerusalem? What is the SYMBOLISM for THAT? For such our "Heavenly TEMPLE" when providing SPIRITUAL LIFE and LIGHT"? That "essence of life" is coming from the SUPREME BEING, the "just" ONE GOD, as if through the horizontal connecting "pipe". What about the CONNECTION from the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE, the ONE GOD in relation to Them, our "One God Creator of our Spirits"? In Ariel's land?

You may guess one such SUGGESTION. You should understand the LAYERS as some type of SYMBOLIC ONES, as they are FULLY "ONE" God with Heavenly Father and just one Husband and God. None Goddess... All have the same Divinity Priesthood, but PAY ATTENTION that just one of Them has "ROOTS": the HUSBAND. They "share", as the women are "grafted" as just ONE TREE OF LIFE. See that all are yielding FRUITS, distinct fruits. They are distinct in the same UNITY. In fact they are not SEVEN, because here it is shown only the SHADOW, as Moses "saw" and reproduced in MENORAH and that was kept in TEMPLES and in David’s STAR as modern political symbol for restoration... They are the same thing.

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You can see in the left down corner of the image that the horizontal BRANCH (stem) is the representation of the SUPREME BEING, of the ONE GOD (as such SUPREME BEING) that is uniting all existing Gods (Supreme Servants of the JUST ONE GOD, the Supreme Being) to make them just "ONE" with the "ONE GOD" and with "Themselves".

Then "THE FULL POWER and INFORMATION" is with Them, living and acting as "ONE", as Trees of Life "grafted" in the SUPREME TREE of LIFE: Impossible to Separate. They are like “SUPREME BRANCHES”.
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In fact what is a MENORAH, the 7 branched CANDLE with 7 flames burning sacred oil in the TEMPLE? What is the meaning? For sure MOSES "saw" the SHADOW of it and was warned to reproduce the SHADOW and not the "three-dimensional reality" that generated the shadow and I concluded (in my reasoning, speculation) that the reality was the TREE OF LIFE.

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The next image was used for an article post so many years ago in Geocities and in Yahoo sites in Brazilian-Portuguese LDS sites...

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They were from the year 2002, made during the fasting period of the Islamic (Muslim) period of Fasting (1 sacred month) that sometimes I follow. But now it became too radical and dangerous... terrorism.



You can "see" that the FIGURE is composed of TWO FIGURES.


The UPPER FIGURE is quite like the TRADITIONAL Moses' Menorah that is described in Bible and was used in Temples, and Tabernacle. Look that it is composed of 7 FLAMES result of burning sacred olive oil. The "central flame" in MENORAH candlestick is the representation of HEVENLY FATHER in ELOHIM. The other FLAMES, besides the CENTRAL FLAME, are representation of WIVES of HEAVENLY FATHER, each one as PROVIDER of "FLAME, of PURE LIGHT: the reason for OIL TO BE PURE and to provide PURE BURNING and PURE LIGHT". Thus the SEVEN FLAMES are quite like the "PORTRAIT" of the LIGHT = LIFE being RELEASED = PROVIDED by the HEAVENLY FATHERS in ELOHIM.

The down PART is the HIDDEN PART of the TREE OF LIFE that MOSES saw and that was generating the FLAMES "SHADOW" on a VERTICAL PLANE (the upper figure...): the origin of the MENORAH.
Thus here we can "see" in a perspective view, the ORIGIN of the FLAMES in the SPACE: the TREE OF LIFE, from ELOHIM. Thus we can see they are 12 (TWELVE). The TWELVE TRIBES. We can reason that each tribe is linked to a "mother", to a "flame". That is the reasoning. And that generates the DAVID's STAR uniting the FLAMES on the TOP of TREE OF LIFE.... Hum, you could "guess" there is something MISSING... For some time we are not to talk about and not present you what is MISSING and the MEANING. Some will not like mainly biased ultra-patriot from USA... There are clues: Ruth/Jethro... There are others. Maybe Ishmael, so great friend of Nephi and Lehi...
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Our nowadays HOLLY Ghost as TREE OF LIFE?

An ESPECULATIVE VIEWPOINT...

Besides the DIRECT GRAFTING into the SUPREME BEING, there remains also the GRAFTING with the HEAVENLY FATHER. Thus there are two types of "LINKS", of FAMILY and of SUPREME DIVINITY (supreme priesthood source, of being SUPREME ONE GOD's PROXY).

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There is a LIVING SYMBOL of the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE, the ONE GOD

It is BRAZIL, in a Beach Town named NATAL, in the very North East, the most EASTern of Brazil. It is a very beautiful beach town of some 1 million persons. It was a very important military town of USA in 2nd world war.

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The huge green vegetation seen in foreground is just

"ONE TREE, the ONE PRIMORDIAL CASHEW TREE. It spread to such so huge area, and became into so great number of distinct TREES".

But so DISTINCT TREES remained UNITED by some STEM (LIVING BRANCH), thus they continue to be just one "HUGE, IMMENSE BEING"

And thus it is quite like a good MODEL for the SUPREME BEING, the just ONE GOD, and

of the LOCAL TREES OF LIFE, being local "Gods" and part of the ONE GOD as included in the SUPREME BEING, in the SUPREME and PRIMORDIAL "Tree of Life". All producing their own FRUITS: cashews.

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You can see how it is so plenty of STEMS, BRANCHES, making the connection of so many DISTINCT CASHEW TREES living, as if connecting FATHERS to SONS and SONS to GRAND-SONS, etc. Thus all are connected to the MOST PRIMORDIAL and FIRST CASHEW TREE OF LIFE, symbolism of SUPREME BEING.

The model with CASHEWS is much better than with VINES used by Jesus, because it is much easier to VIEW it, walk under it, eat the fruits, harvest them, and see the thick branches making the connection...
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It appears that the SABELLAs are linked to the SABELLI (SABaoth ELI = ELI SABaoth, MY GOD Lord of Heavenly Army = My God Jehovah) and several variant names as SABERI (in Persia), SABERIAH (in India), Isabela (name for woman = I SAB ELA), Isabel (I SAB EL), ELIsabeTH, Savel = Sabel (also fish name), etc., and other names linked to SABELLA (quite common in Lebanon). What could be "SABELLA"?

SAB ELLA --> SABaoth + ELL"A"

ELL"a" ? ELLI("A") It is a symbolism of ELOHIM, of a Wife, thus a God, thus a Divine Creator, the same God with Heavenly Father, thus the Menorah is also her symbol, quite well hidden, not on Temple, but quite alike, and quite like corrupted, even if in gold like and branches like...?

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It appears that with such shape, of Temple Menorah, lives in the shore line of Mediterranean Sea from Israel to Greece, where it was harvested by the SABELLI people, as result of the slavery imposed by the GREEKS, described in Joel 3:6: Israelites were removed from Israel and later they were sold by the Phoenicians to the Greeks, to become slaves, to become the SABELLIS. Harvesters of SABELLAS. Remembering the LOST TEMPLE and of the lost MENORAH. They got quite like a REMEMBRANCE of the MALE Menorah in the FEMALE Menorah that was SOFT and brilliant as GOLD. It was sold to the noble women of Middle East to spread cosmetic material, and to remove old cosmetics, for washings, apply perfumes, etc. For sure there was plenty of OTHER type of SABELLAS, but not of the type MENORAH SABELLAS. The true TEMPLE Menorah was transported to ROME and there disappeared (melted?).
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“Softer” first approaches toward a broader understand of what means the DAVID's STAR symbolism being used for the POLITICAL RESTORED “physical” NATION OF ISRAEL in Israel.. We are first using it not as a STATIC and COLD SYMBOL as the NATION ISRAEL is using, but as something VIBRATING, ALIVE, PULSATING... More is to come. In fact it was for long known. But a typical ultra-biased and ultra-blindened ultra-patriot (as those who supported blindly Iraq invasion...) is not able to "accept-support) and we are so sorry for them. So sorry. They can't feel the "vibration". Israel is "vibrating" through David's Star and they can't notice... Pharaoh doesn’t allow them to see they have “more” friends abroad. He made you too biased, as in old days…

So sorry! Sorry! You followed Bush-es: going too far away. So sorry... David's Star "sounds" like the snake tail when ready to attack LDS... (?). The tribes should be friends, not snakes.

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It is possible that so many Israelites obeyed the EGYPTIAN RELIGON, in their syncretism with the Israelite religion (quite like the modern syncretism with the religion of blind "divine" ultra-patriotism, as to make unfair wars, as in Iraq), believing it was a required syncretism the "patriotic" requirement for their survival in Egypt and evidence of their loyalty even to the most evident stupidity and just to provide illegal profits to very few in name of Egypt..

You can see that one “very limited” possibility is that the DAVID's STAR symbolism is toward it being alike the BENZENE RING ("rotating around"), with HEAVENLY MOTEHRS providing Their "attention" and capacity of Life Providers to the 12(?) Tribes, as suggested long ago, alternating from PAIR of tribes. That was the first solution, as provided for Jews.

But in other sites, as for Brazilian LDS, it was released the TRUTH, the Israelites would accept the other solution, the TRUE ONE, as being "offensive" (also the same for biased LDS of USA...). Something so "awful",

I guess for a typical people from the "salt", from the Salt Lake City. It is very strange, but Prophet Joseph Smith was never from that extreme nowadays political "salt" positions, chained by the Pharaoh: just the opposite.

Hiding in the "salt" was a necessity for first days survival. After that, it remained for "tradition", some quite imposed. More or less the same problem with the Jews to survive as a community even very dispersed one. So some traditions were “imposed” by great modern Pharaohs, as if those of killing their dear sons for so silly reasons, even for so unfair dirty wars and for dirty money and powers and (colonial) domains, as if replacing the British Empire. Now suffers from the effects of corruption.
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