just me wrote:Oh, sure, you're supposed to take it to the Lord. pray about it and have it confirmed to you.
The problem is that if you get a different answer you are WRONG.
So, what is the point of praying about it? Did the Spirit tell members that Dunn was telling fiction?
If you don't like the LDS church, you can always leave. No problem. If you are in salt lake, head down to the catholic cathedral and go to mass and join the catholics for their coffee hour. Of course they have the pope. Protestants tend to listen to their pastor. No sense attending a church when one does not listen to their pastor, pope, or prophet.
What does this have to do with the thread or my comment for that matter?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
MsJack wrote:If you can talk about that, why do you protest when others talk about how Dunn's Mormon beliefs clouded his love for his fellow Latter-day Saints and led him to tell devastating, self-aggrandizing lies to millions of people? How his fellow LDS leaders laid aside the sanctity of honesty and doing what's right to protect Dunn's lies and punish the person primarily responsible for blowing the whistle on him?
Or in other words:
My Point ========>
===Your Head===
You have no point. My point is simple: one can not condemn an entire church because of Paul H. Dunn. And that was my point. Dunn made a mistake. He's dead. He made a mistake. Move on.
Not quite, he made a mistake on behalf of the Church which led large numbers of people to believe things that weren't true. I think the unasked/unanswered question is how he managed to continue making the exact same mistake for years on end without any Apostle or Memeber of the First Presidency being tipped the wink that one of their inspired appointments had gone rogue.
'Church pictures are not always accurate' (The Nehor May 4th 2011)
Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.
why me wrote:If you don't like the LDS church, you can always leave. No problem. If you are in salt lake, head down to the catholic cathedral and go to mass and join the catholics for their coffee hour. Of course they have the pope. Protestants tend to listen to their pastor. No sense attending a church when one does not listen to their pastor, pope, or prophet.
Best of all, head down to the local pub. You'll meet a much better, more honest group of people.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
why me wrote:Dunn made a mistake. He's dead. He made a mistake. Move on.
19th-century Protestants made mistakes. They're dead. They made mistakes. Move on.
WHOOSH!
If you our critical of Mormon history I will bring up the protestants and their unchristlike intolerance toward others. But yea, you are right. They are dead. Move on.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:If you our critical of Mormon history I will bring up the protestants and their unchristlike intolerance toward others.
Please. You fixate on the foibles of Protestantism (real or perceived) at times when I'm saying zero about Mormon history, let alone anything critical of it. It's what you do.
And now you've barged into this thread to criticize others for refusing to "move-on" from Dunn when you're one of the biggest squatters on this forum.
Physician, heal thyself.
"It seems to me that these women were the head (κεφάλαιον) of the church which was at Philippi." ~ John Chrysostom, Homilies on Philippians 13
why me wrote:If you our critical of Mormon history I will bring up the protestants and their unchristlike intolerance toward others.
Please. You fixate on the foibles of Protestantism (real or perceived) at times when I'm saying zero about Mormon history, let alone anything critical of it. It's what you do.
And now you've barged into this thread to criticize others for refusing to "move-on" from Dunn when you're one of the biggest squatters on this forum.
Physician, heal thyself.
As a lifelong Catholic and two-week Mormon, why me really resents those pesky protestants.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
why me wrote:I forgive him. Unfortunately, I am dealing with a heartless crew on this forum.
Forgive him?? You are TOTALLY missing the point. I couldn't care less about Dunn or his entertaining tall tales. I do feel sorry though for those who actually spent their hard earned cash on his books, tapes, etc. thereby supporting and encouraging his continued profiting from his story telling.
Having seen Dunn at a fireside in person, I was amazed at those around me who were in tears having been touched by the "Spirit of God". I am further amazed how the "Lord" chooses to manifest his "Spirit" through the mouths of liars and frauds. Truly amazing. Another "testament" of the "One true Church" I suppose. Yeah...that's it. That's how I would expect the "Almighty" to get his message across. Mmmmmm...yeah.
Red flags look normal when you're wearing rose colored glasses.
