SUPREME BEING (the ONE GOD) x Distinct Gods x TREE OF LIFE
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Some persons politically are adept of Egypt and of its syncretism. Maybe they just manufacture "gods" symbolism, in pure gold, not to represent the "gods" of Egypt, but quite like to provide "support" to the "good" things from Egypt, as their political power and domain, they want to share and live under a Egypt "shadow". Even if living in the desert or salty desert
There is nothing "wrong" in placing a gold calf in very high place for people "see" it as such symbolic support to the mighty kingdom of Pharaoh, where they remain at its boundary. They know good people are not worshiping the calves. Maybe they give some value to the gold itself, but who do that is just the foolish people.
That calves on very high elevation position means nothing and teaches nothing, exactly as Pagan idols did and do. It is only some remains from Egypt religion, even if people do not worship them. They teach nothing. It is just wastage of wealth to become like other pagans religions that do the same with their idols. Not in use by Judaism and Islamism. Should we need statues over the Churches (chapels) and inside them? Some "angels" (cherubim) were not for "public" viewing and had very specific purposes. Also the bulls at the brass "sea" cleaning tank.
There is nothing "wrong" in placing a gold calf in very high place for people "see" it as such symbolic support to the mighty kingdom of Pharaoh, where they remain at its boundary. They know good people are not worshiping the calves. Maybe they give some value to the gold itself, but who do that is just the foolish people.
That calves on very high elevation position means nothing and teaches nothing, exactly as Pagan idols did and do. It is only some remains from Egypt religion, even if people do not worship them. They teach nothing. It is just wastage of wealth to become like other pagans religions that do the same with their idols. Not in use by Judaism and Islamism. Should we need statues over the Churches (chapels) and inside them? Some "angels" (cherubim) were not for "public" viewing and had very specific purposes. Also the bulls at the brass "sea" cleaning tank.
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K I have read some of this and I am lost on what you are trying to say. Is anyone in the same boat as me?
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The "discussion" is that THERE IS JUST "ONE GOD" as the "SUPREME BEING" and that all other God are just SUPREME SERVANTS of the SUPREME BEING, quite like "SUPREME PROXY", quite like "SUPREME VERB or SPOKESMAN" of the "ONE GOD". Thus they can speak as being the "I AM WHAT I AM" and next They present Themselves as being God and what makes them a specific God's Being, as I am your Heavenly Direct Commandant, under the Supreme Commandant of the ONE GOD...
For sure even some local "ground commandants" would like to have some "dual hybrid" religions, as if mixing God's religion with Pharaoh's POLITICAL religion. Thus mixing the true Jehovah's God religion with so many false god's from Egypt. Thus they left Egypt but the false gods and false (political) religion from Egypt was accompanying them, even with the art of making physical and intellectual and political cult toward things of Egypt, mixed with Jehovah's things, mixing them, in IDOLS.
Thus in vain it was provided the warning in ALMA 11:22 (it was never denied the existence of "just ONE" Supreme Being) to ALMA 11:26 (such "just ONE" Supreme Being is the ONE ALLWAYS TRUE ALIVE GOD: "I AM WHAT I AM, always I have been that, I never changed as the TRUE ALIVE God... I am ALONE, without companion, or father or mother, or wife... ALMA 11:28 There is NOT MORE THAN SUCH "ONE GOD, as the SUPREME BEING").
This is the subject of the discussion. The existence of ONE GOD and the existence of so many distinct Gods that are just "ONE" with the ONE GOD = SUPREME BEING, easy to see and understand using the symbolism of TREEs of LIFE "grafted" in the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE.
For sure even some local "ground commandants" would like to have some "dual hybrid" religions, as if mixing God's religion with Pharaoh's POLITICAL religion. Thus mixing the true Jehovah's God religion with so many false god's from Egypt. Thus they left Egypt but the false gods and false (political) religion from Egypt was accompanying them, even with the art of making physical and intellectual and political cult toward things of Egypt, mixed with Jehovah's things, mixing them, in IDOLS.
Thus in vain it was provided the warning in ALMA 11:22 (it was never denied the existence of "just ONE" Supreme Being) to ALMA 11:26 (such "just ONE" Supreme Being is the ONE ALLWAYS TRUE ALIVE GOD: "I AM WHAT I AM, always I have been that, I never changed as the TRUE ALIVE God... I am ALONE, without companion, or father or mother, or wife... ALMA 11:28 There is NOT MORE THAN SUCH "ONE GOD, as the SUPREME BEING").
This is the subject of the discussion. The existence of ONE GOD and the existence of so many distinct Gods that are just "ONE" with the ONE GOD = SUPREME BEING, easy to see and understand using the symbolism of TREEs of LIFE "grafted" in the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE.
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There is just, also, "ONE" and just one "SUPREME TIME", the ONE GOD's "SUPREME TIME" which is the one from SUPREME BEING's "TIME" being the same INTO and ALONG the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE, thus not being linked with our silly "MODERN" PHYSICS of "SPACE-TIME-GRAVITATION", as on LIGHT and GRAVITATION, speed displacement, black holes, dark mass, etc. (Einstein theories of Relativity...). We could reason as if "circles of time" have been piled up endlessly in CIRCLES of SUPREME TIME in which we have SUPREME TIME "circulating' from ALPHA to OMEGA and then continues ahead, around supreme circle of SUPREME BEING's TIME, going again from ALPHA to OMEGA. All God's Time are quite like circles "graphted" into such SUPREME BEING's TIME CALENDAR circle, from the same ALPHA to the same OMEGA, and thus they say they are from ALPHA to OMEGA, meaning from that same SUPREME BEING's Time supreme and primordial referential and existence. Many literature was generated on that for long time since 1991, quite like on absolute Kolob's referential toward God's Time and Supreme ONE GOD's TIME. What is mortality time? And for translated time? For dead? ... For Adam and Eve? For Elohim time? When was Heavenly Father living in mortality time condition? (a guess...?). How far away?
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what good does all this do you?
God="that"
So?
Go feed the poor or something.
God="that"
So?
Go feed the poor or something.
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Rambo wrote:K I have read some of this and I am lost on what you are trying to say. Is anyone in the same boat as me?
Have you ever seen the art work of schizophrenics? Very similar. It makes perfect sense to them, but to no one else. The movie "A Beautiful Mind" comes to mind.
ELYSAB my have stopped taking his medications.
Gadianton seems to see something in it. Maybe it's beyond my meager abilities to decipher.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
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Have you ever seen the art work of schizophrenics? Very similar. It makes perfect sense to them, but to no one else. The movie "A Beautiful Mind" comes to mind.
ELYSAB my have stopped taking his medications.
I don't know why, but the first accusation against me is related to schizophrenics or something like that. I have been University Professor for many decades... Teaching as normal professor, since 1968... And I never got a Nobel Prize! I got my M.Sc degree in Univ. Calif. Berkeley in 1978 where I started my PhD. My wife became so greatest friend of Iranian Muslim women (activist) I was called for an "interview" within Internal "security" Agency of USA because of my close contacts with such Iranian men (PhD people...) with whom I learned about Koran and Islam and Ayatollah Khomeini... maybe this is why I was accused as "mad", as my wife was going to march dressed as Iranian Muslim woman in parades against USA domain in IRAN... maybe?... My wife resisted very much against my conversion to LDS and she waited 7 years after my baptism to baptize, and with the condition that I do all the teachings and the baptism itself and that none USA missionary would be present at the baptism...
But several doctors assured me that I was a "normal man", not a schizophrenic, even not providing support to USA in the question against IRAN and IRAQ or in favor of BUSH or OBAMA?
Maybe there is some great schizophrenic collective symptoms affecting a great society=USA,LDS and thus we are not able to establish some normal communication, according some normal standards (with Jews, Arabs, ...). The great dilemma between distinct civilizations, as from USA and Arabian and Asiatic (as Chinese): distinct type of schizophrenic values. Each one accusing the other as if living and seeing in an unreal world, quite like fool of unreal things, quite like shown in the movie "A Beautiful Mind".
For sure Bush and his SINISTER MINISTER OF LIERS (Hunsfeld), like the Pinochio, were living in and "seeing" such so false world of conspirators and wurrounded by the so secret world of spies and deposits of weapons able to destroy the world, that they used as "evidence" to take actions, in the real world, as to make all type of barbarians acts supported by "democracy" and CHURCH... We know the result of their schizophrenia. USA is paying the price and the demoralization and the inflation and collapse of economy and end of jobs and prosperity. Collapse.
In my case, my schizophrenia goes to nowhere in damages... I am "nothing". I propose just quite silly “speculations”. I am not one of the Church's Prophets or any important Authorities. I am a despised Lamanite, "little man red skin" (GUARA-NI), also descendant from Sabellians (Jehovah my God) people. Thus, for Church and USA I am just "nothing".
Thus don't worrry in thinking if I take medicines for schizophreny. No, I don't. I don't need them, as that is not my problem or disorder. If Joseph Smith or Jesus were alive today, as mortarl, for sure, they would accuse them of some mental disorder.
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This TOPIC is about TREE OF LIFE = a SPECIFIC "God" grafted in the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE = the SUPREME "ONE GOD".
And one speculative "question" is if the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE and the "grafted" TREES of LIFE, as "static" or if they are "CHANGING". And then we have the concept of DIVINE TIME. In one case we have the concept of God's Time and in the other we have the concept of SUPREME TREE OF LIFE's TIME, the ABSOLUTE SUPREME TIME, which is not STATIC, it is in EVOLUTION. It remembers somewhat the concept in KABALA, but that is a corrupted evaluation. It appeared nice to introduce the concept of God's TIME and of SUPREME "ONE GOD's TIME" into this TOPIC, as a natural extension of the concept of a TREE that is LIVING and PROGRESSING, as natural consequence of being living.
How long would take the DIVINE SAP to travel from one extremity of SUPREME TREE to the other most extreme far away of such tree? Conclusion:
But if the friends would like to "remove", it would be possible, but more difficult to make correlation with essential things.
And one speculative "question" is if the SUPREME TREE OF LIFE and the "grafted" TREES of LIFE, as "static" or if they are "CHANGING". And then we have the concept of DIVINE TIME. In one case we have the concept of God's Time and in the other we have the concept of SUPREME TREE OF LIFE's TIME, the ABSOLUTE SUPREME TIME, which is not STATIC, it is in EVOLUTION. It remembers somewhat the concept in KABALA, but that is a corrupted evaluation. It appeared nice to introduce the concept of God's TIME and of SUPREME "ONE GOD's TIME" into this TOPIC, as a natural extension of the concept of a TREE that is LIVING and PROGRESSING, as natural consequence of being living.
How long would take the DIVINE SAP to travel from one extremity of SUPREME TREE to the other most extreme far away of such tree? Conclusion:
But if the friends would like to "remove", it would be possible, but more difficult to make correlation with essential things.
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ELYSAB wrote:
I don't know why, but the first accusation against me is related to schizophrenics or something like that. I have been University Professor for many decades... Teaching as normal professor, since 1968... And I never got a Nobel Prize! I got my M.Sc degree in Univ. Calif. Berkeley in 1978 where I started my PhD.
No disrespect, ELYSAB, but the quality of your English belies your claim of an MS degree from UC Berkeley.
If you could condense your thoughts down to a few concise paragraphs, we might be able to understand what you are trying to say and make intelligent comments to them.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
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"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.