Loss of belief in a devil...

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No. It is simply that reducing the influence of Mormonism in one's life lessens one's susceptibility to Satanic influences masquerading as Christianity.
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Christian Avenger wrote:No. It is simply that reducing the influence of Mormonism in one's life lessens one's susceptibility to Satanic influences masquerading as Christianity.

I don't get what you're saying here. Satanic influences masquerade as Christianity? Granted, if there really were a Satan, I'd agree that at last some of what occurs in the name of Christianity is probably at his instigation...

I now recognize that Satan is just Christianity's version of the Bogeyman. Every religion, or culture, or mythology, has a trickster, or an evil one, or a bogeyman. There's no good reason to believe that any of these bogeymen actually exist. There's no invisible, evil beings (or spirits) floating around trying to trip us up, or make us do bad things. We do all the convincing to do bad things ourselves.
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I'm sad I lost the belief in the devil. Horror movies aren't as fun anymore :(
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Rambo wrote:I'm sad I lost the belief in the devil. Horror movies aren't as fun anymore :(


Yeah, I used to get extra creeped out by references to demons and such in movies because I thought they were real.. Not anymore.
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Christian Avenger wrote:"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." (2 Corinthians 11:14)

Given the Satanic origins of Mormonism it should come as no surprise that those who eventually reject the cult of Joseph Smith lose their fears of demonic influences.


Cool, an EV I hope a hope a hope. Say pal, ya know, when Christ told his disciples not to rejoice that they have power over the devils, but rather rejoice that their names are written in heaven. Which has to mean that they were SAVED, right? Well, so, um, ah, say, why then did he command them after his resurrection when he was seen among them forty days to WAIT until they received the promise of the Father; when they will be baptized with fire and the Holy Ghost not many days hence?

Trusting in the shed blood of Jesus does not a baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost make.
The tokens of lust and carnality remain and are never burned out and you guys never get a clean house. So what gospel is that? A false one for sure.

Since the disciples names were already written and no man could pluck them out of the hand of Christ whom the Father had given him...........why did they NEED to be baptized with fire and the Holy Ghost? Why don't you? The Lord Jesus Christ commanded it. Repent man, repent.

Luke 10: 20
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Acts 1;
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
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Sethbag wrote: There's no invisible, evil beings (or spirits) floating around trying to trip us up, or make us do bad things. We do all the convincing to do bad things ourselves.

Try leaving his employ, resist his wonders, forsake the world before you deny that he exists.
Why would he waist time on the dead or the sleeping? The Gentiles have for hundreds of years so well defeated the gospel of Jesus Christ that all the devils are on holiday until the winding up scene.
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I deny that Satan exists. I am approximately 99.9993% sure that he is only mythological. The other .0007% is just my nod to the fact that it's very difficult to prove a negative.

Nightlion and Avenger, what do you think are the ramifications to my denying that Satan exists?
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Sethbag wrote:I deny that Satan exists. I am approximately 99.9993% sure that he is only mythological. The other .0007% is just my nod to the fact that it's very difficult to prove a negative.

Nightlion and Avenger, what do you think are the ramifications to my denying that Satan exists?


No worse than denying me. He don't care. Its not a high priority with God either. There is no call for FAITH in Satan. Acknowledge him if he bugs you some day. Soon I hope. That would mean you are on the move, up to the heights, as he only wacks the moles that put their heads up.
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Sethbag wrote:I deny that Satan exists. I am approximately 99.9993% sure that he is only mythological. The other .0007% is just my nod to the fact that it's very difficult to prove a negative.

Nightlion and Avenger, what do you think are the ramifications to my denying that Satan exists?


I think it is more important to acknowledge that Jesus saves than Satan exists. Whether you believe in an actual Devil or not, the false polytheistic god of Mormonism has no power to save. The warning about Satan appearing as an angel of light we find in God's Word is to help us not be deceived by false prophets like Joseph Smith. Since you already reject the fraudulent gospel of the Mormons you are halfway there.
Jude 4: For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
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The character satan (in hungarian we use definite article and lower case...) doesn't exist but I like him. (Is he a he? hehehe... I know many Satanic women... I am married...)

I've seen the Faust of Gounod when I was 5 yo, and Mephisto was a sympathetic character then.

Later, in Michael Moorcock's "The War Hound and the World's Pain" I've learned Lucifer from another viewpoint, and he was a positive figure. Please read MM.
(Bill Barclay, William Ewert Barclay, Michael Barrington, a joint pseudonym, Edward P. Bradbury, James Colvin, Philip James, a joint pseudonym, Michael John Moorcock, Desmond Reid, a house pseudonym)


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