Brigham Young wanted David Smith to lead the Church

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Re: Brigham Young wanted David Smith to lead the Church

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Tullidge's work is a 19th Century Mormon classic, made all the more interesting because Tullidge left the Church and joined the Godbeites.

But, "Joseph the Prophet" ends on page 545 and Tullidge's index mentions a lot of Smiths but not David. So that source won't work.

Avery's work cites only RLDS sources about what Brigham Young said; it seems like the Church's official organ would have picked up the comment. But, I privately believe that Brigham Young thought that Joseph Smith's descendants were supposed to lead the Church. See Avery's work at page 168 which cites better sources, but then notes that Brigham Young admonished the Saints to stop talking about David taking over the Church, because it wasn't going to happen. As Avery comments: "The condition for David's acceptance into the fold was clear; obedience to Brigham and the Utah authorities."

Your statement makes it appear that there was something untoward about David's commitment to an insane asylum. There wasn't. He was insane, probably gay as well although one is not the other.
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Re: Brigham Young wanted David Smith to lead the Church

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I have seen quotes from Brigham about David Smith leading the Church, from LDS sources, years ago, in Utah, in the library at BYU. LDS sources, not RLDS. Sorry, I did not photocopy them. But I remember them. I'm not in Utah, so I can't get at these sources right now.

Why would the RLDS church "invent" comments from BY that David Smith would lead the Church, when the RLDS believed that JSIII should lead it? Non-sensical position.

I think David Smith had a mental breakdown in Utah, after finally realizing that his dear mother Emma lied to him all his life. How "insane" was he? I think his Church of Zion connections had a LOT to do with his brothers committing him.

Yahoo Bot wrote:Tullidge's work is a 19th Century Mormon classic, made all the more interesting because Tullidge left the Church and joined the Godbeites.

But, "Joseph the Prophet" ends on page 545 and Tullidge's index mentions a lot of Smiths but not David. So that source won't work.

Avery's work cites only RLDS sources about what Brigham Young said; it seems like the Church's official organ would have picked up the comment. But, I privately believe that Brigham Young thought that Joseph Smith's descendants were supposed to lead the Church.

Your statement makes it appear that there was something untoward about David's commitment to an insane asylum. There wasn't. He was insane, probably gay as well although one is not the other.
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Re: Brigham Young wanted David Smith to lead the Church

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daheshism wrote:
I think David Smith had a mental breakdown in Utah, after finally realizing that his dear mother Emma lied to him all his life. How "insane" was he? I think his Church of Zion connections had a LOT to do with his brothers committing him.


That's just plain nuts but you're not the first to believe this crazy theory. His extensive journal entries shows that he suffered from depression.

It appears that the Utah press made up this theory that David went crazy when he believed his mother had lied to him and then his brothers had him committed, or at least so says a journal entry of JSIII. The Illinois church press accused the Brighamites of poisoning David, which JSIII disputed.

The simple fact is that David suffered from life-long depression; was highly intelligent and artistic.
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Re: Brigham Young wanted David Smith to lead the Church

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[quote="jon"]Is absence of evidence now evidence of absence?
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Oh my God! LOL!!

Reminds me of LDS apologists defending the Book of Abraham.

Paul O
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