beefcalf wrote:Droopy is apparently ignorant of the fact that the church has always taught, and continues to teach to this very day, that Mormons should only marry Mormons of the same race.
So much for "the continuous and increasing intermarriage between ethnic groups that is sure to increase dramatically in the future."
Not among Mormons.
Not exactly. However, in the past, especially in america which is a racist country, interrace marriage did come up against the wall in the outside community. There was an article in the NYTimes about a mixed race couple with children still experiencing problems from people on the street. Not easy and certainly a lot of pressure to bear on that couple. And of course it was much worse 30 years ago.
However, I do not see any such suggestions today. But way back when, I think that it was done for the sake of the marriage. Many mixed race couples ended up in divorce court because of outside pressure.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
With regard to the story mentioned in the OP. I asked you these two questions previously without response from you.
Why is this story being used in church? What is the intended message or teaching of this story?
Jersey Girl
It is not taught in church at all. It was just a comment by a member, if true. There is nothing in the manual about it. In fact, I have no idea of the context of such a story since no such information is in the priesthood/relief society manual. Just Me needs to give some context for the comments and why they were said. The whole message seems off topic to any of the lessons being learned that sunday.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Lucretia MacEvil wrote: Sweetie, it's not a personal attack. It's a call for love.
I'm not sure if he's calling you a liar or if he's criticizing you for passing along an embarrassing story, the kind of thinking that perhaps some or many Mormons have evolved past, but either way he's saying something about himself, not you.
Well, I can be critical of her because she said nothing to stem the story. She just sat there and enjoyed it all. Now of course, she voices outrage but when the woman was talking, her butt was squashing her hands and she remained silent. Who is more guilty: the person telling the story or the silent person?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote: It is not taught in church at all. It was just a comment by a member, if true. There is nothing in the manual about it. In fact, I have no idea of the context of such a story since no such information is in the priesthood/relief society manual. Just Me needs to give some context for the comments and why they were said. The whole message seems off topic to any of the lessons being learned that sunday.
What the hell do you know about what is taught in the LDS church?
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
why me wrote: It is not taught in church at all. It was just a comment by a member, if true. There is nothing in the manual about it. In fact, I have no idea of the context of such a story since no such information is in the priesthood/relief society manual. Just Me needs to give some context for the comments and why they were said. The whole message seems off topic to any of the lessons being learned that sunday.
What the hell do you know about what is taught in the LDS church?
H.
Let alone Relief Society.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Lucretia MacEvil wrote: Sweetie, it's not a personal attack. It's a call for love.
I'm not sure if he's calling you a liar or if he's criticizing you for passing along an embarrassing story, the kind of thinking that perhaps some or many Mormons have evolved past, but either way he's saying something about himself, not you.
Well, I can be critical of her because she said nothing to stem the story. She just sat there and enjoyed it all. Now of course, she voices outrage but when the woman was talking, her butt was squashing her hands and she remained silent. Who is more guilty: the person telling the story or the silent person?
Just Me has class; it's likely she didn't want to embarrass those telling the story and come across as a complete b-otch.
A good example of someone opening their fat yap and looking like an arse while insulting a very pleasant human being is, well, Why Me!
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
Lucretia MacEvil wrote: Sweetie, it's not a personal attack. It's a call for love.
I'm not sure if he's calling you a liar or if he's criticizing you for passing along an embarrassing story, the kind of thinking that perhaps some or many Mormons have evolved past, but either way he's saying something about himself, not you.
Well, I can be critical of her because she said nothing to stem the story. She just sat there and enjoyed it all. Now of course, she voices outrage but when the woman was talking, her butt was squashing her hands and she remained silent. Who is more guilty: the person telling the story or the silent person?
How on earth do you know what she did or didn't do? Were you there? In any case, people often use this board to write or express things/thoughts they don't feel comfortable expressing in real life situations and who are you to criticize that?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
You can't make this s*** up. Srsly. This isn't the first time I've heard stories similar to this...SWK anyone?
But, yeah, she went on about "Spanish speaking countries" being Lamanites and blossoming like the rose because they are accepting the gospel. Basically, Mexicans and Argentinians and such are all Lamanites.
And then the lovely story about the family with 9 children where each kid was lighter than the last after joining the church. Oh, and they lovingly called the youngest (whitest) child their "little Nephite."
And of course you sat there with your butt sitting on your hands, relishing the moment that you can come on the board to post a thread about it all. When in fact, you would have been much better served raising your hand, making a comment etc. By sitting on your hands, and saying nothing to her, I tend to doubt your story. Or you are somewhat shy to raise your hand.
I find Just Me's account completely believable, unlike the fabled light-cotton Mormon lays that "occurred" in '70's NYC.
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir