Loss of belief in a devil...
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I figured if Satan (not Lucifer, which is a mistranslation of the Bible repeated by the Book of Mormon and other LDS scripture) really existed, then he would be happy to possess my body if I invited him to do so. I invited him repeatedly to possess my body, and he has yet to do so.
I'll do so again now. SATAN, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, I INVITE YOU TO POSSESS MY BODY AND TAKE CONTROL OF MY LIFE.
Hm... nothing happened.
I'll do so again now. SATAN, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, I INVITE YOU TO POSSESS MY BODY AND TAKE CONTROL OF MY LIFE.
Hm... nothing happened.
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Scottie wrote:The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
A great trick indeed, given that he DOESN'T exist.
"Sire, I had no need of that hypothesis" - Laplace
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Cardinal Biggles wrote:I figured if Satan (not Lucifer, which is a mistranslation of the Bible repeated by the Book of Mormon and other LDS scripture) really existed, then he would be happy to possess my body if I invited him to do so. I invited him repeatedly to possess my body, and he has yet to do so.
I'll do so again now. SATAN, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, I INVITE YOU TO POSSESS MY BODY AND TAKE CONTROL OF MY LIFE.
Hm... nothing happened.
Satan probably hates your impudence as much as Christ resents the EVs thanking him for saving them when he has done nothing of the sort.
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Mad Viking wrote:I've rejected Mormonism and all Christianity.
That's quaint.
There is no devil. There were no Satanic origins of Mormonism.
Your testimony is noted.
The origins of Mormonism are very similar to the origins of Christianity.
No.
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Hades wrote:Nightlion wrote: Try leaving his employ, resist his wonders, forsake the world before you deny that he exists. Why would he waist time on the dead or the sleeping? The Gentiles have for hundreds of years so well defeated the gospel of Jesus Christ that all the devils are on holiday until the winding up scene.
I thought that people did evil because they listened to the devils. If the devils are on holiday, why would anyone do evil?
The Salem witch trials happened because many of those Pilgrims were as much true saints as they could be without the restoration and then some fell away. It is falling away from light and truth that gives Satan unusual powers that manifests rarely at times. The Book of Mormon shows this point well.
Relatively nobody has been getting the gospel right for many hundreds of years. A few Mormon got close and Satan reared up his Satanic Ritualistic Abuse among the fearful.
But for he most part the world is innocent of sufficient knowledge and gifts of God to enable Satan to take possession of their house to defile it. So a decent measure of civility continues.
When one is a partaker of a great deal of light and truth all hell boils over to attempt to defile and extinguish that light.
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Man, oh man...do I ever remember being scared shitless watching the Sunday Night Movie version (heavily edited) of the "Exorcist." I was 11 and it scared the crap out of me. I distinctly remember having nightmares for two months. I believed that Satan was always a hair's breath away...ready to take my soul away for his mere pleasure. Mind you this was broadcast TV, completely gutted by the censors...and broken up by TV commercials. Nevertheless, this film scared the pants off me.
I saw the movie last month as a non-believing adult. Complete, uninterupted, letterbox DVD version. I was completely underwhelmed by the movie. It was hard to suppress laughter viewing all of the Catholic nonsense. Time gives one perspective. Satan=Stan.
I saw the movie last month as a non-believing adult. Complete, uninterupted, letterbox DVD version. I was completely underwhelmed by the movie. It was hard to suppress laughter viewing all of the Catholic nonsense. Time gives one perspective. Satan=Stan.
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Scottie wrote:The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
The greatest trick the believers ever pulled was convincing the world the devil exists.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Nightlion wrote:
The Salem witch trials happened because many of those Pilgrims were as much true saints as they could be without the restoration and then some fell away. It is falling away from light and truth that gives Satan unusual powers that manifests rarely at times. The Book of Mormon shows this point well.
Actually, they probably happened do to spoiled bread, and the ergot hallucinogens contained in it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism#S ... ccusations
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Probably the most shocking (thus insightful) thing I'd ever heard a confessed Satanist say was that he felt modern Christians had become too sophisticated to believe in an actual being theist traditions identify as "the Devil". He argued that this had become the case due to the rise in basic understandings of science and myths in relation to history and religion, and the availability of information on these subjects - all things easily afforded to us living in the information age. This was shocking because it made perfect sense.
It got me thinking... believing in a Devil *was* actually stranger then believing in a God.
Yet the two are made out to be absolutely, intrinsically reliant on each other (as per the "you can't have good without evil" argument.) At that point the old "The Devil's greatest trick..." line seemed to be completely backwards, and, as Buffalo noted above, should actually be more along the lines of
"The greatest trick the Devil ever played was fooling the world he did exist".
It got me thinking... believing in a Devil *was* actually stranger then believing in a God.
Yet the two are made out to be absolutely, intrinsically reliant on each other (as per the "you can't have good without evil" argument.) At that point the old "The Devil's greatest trick..." line seemed to be completely backwards, and, as Buffalo noted above, should actually be more along the lines of
"The greatest trick the Devil ever played was fooling the world he did exist".
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I once thought to myself that if I can prove the devil exists then I can prove there is a God. Since God doesn't show himself and really doesn't do anything then maybe satan will show me. But then again maybe Satan knows my heart and if I find out he does exist then I would become a believer again. It's kind of hard to trick the devil.
On the mission I had a companion that was so scared of satan. He didn't even like mentioning his name cause he thought it would bring him into the world.
On the mission I had a companion that was so scared of satan. He didn't even like mentioning his name cause he thought it would bring him into the world.