Why do we have to be so PC??
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I think this is partially what frustrates me.
These smart men know that humans have these blind spots when talking about religion, that the ability for the brain to function in it's normal, analytical way is circumvented, yet they still refuse to believe that THEIR brain has this blind spot. No, it's everyone else that has this blind spot. Their religion is the right one.
Why is this?
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
These smart men know that humans have these blind spots when talking about religion, that the ability for the brain to function in it's normal, analytical way is circumvented, yet they still refuse to believe that THEIR brain has this blind spot. No, it's everyone else that has this blind spot. Their religion is the right one.
Why is this?
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
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Re: Why do we have to be so PC??
I know some very smart people who can be very stupid at times.
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Buffalo wrote:Could you expand on this comment?
faith to me is different and perhaps more than trust, as is often used ina secular sense. But everyone has faith and puts faith in things. The scientist puts faith in his/her experiments, in the "tried and tested" methodoligies that he's/she's been taught. In so doing i can't really see how that causes a mental block. Sure the methodologies may be proven wrong. But the scientist himself can still think. can still use his mental faculties in his analyzing.
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Scottie wrote:These smart men know that humans have these blind spots when talking about religion, that the ability for the brain to function in it's normal, analytical way is circumvented, yet they still refuse to believe that THEIR brain has this blind spot. No, it's everyone else that has this blind spot. Their religion is the right one.
Why is this?
Its not easy, sometimes, to comport what is spiritual manifestation with what we think we know. Its not easy to sqaure what the latest from man thinks he knows with what the spiritual manifestation teaches. we simply rely on, have faith in, a combination of modes of knowledge-acquisition. I think what's frustrating to you would then be that we actually maintain there is some more to help you understand and comprehend truth than what you rely on, but that something more you simply can't' see. You simply don't know or understand. I can see how that would be frustrating.
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
Its a tough question that poses a problem in terms of begging the question, and making assumptions in the premise. We all have blindspots, i think. Not just the religious. I'm not sure the blind spots are always a hindrance to "allowing itself to question" things at all. Look we all know the scientific method. We all trust that it can work in helping us answer questions. We simply have that plus another mode of understanding--the Spirit. It too can help us answer questions. There is no doubt that there are religious who stop in their quest of learning and thinking, but that is the same for non-religious too.
I think you're simply seeing this in a very myopic way. Its easy to see "the others" as bad and stupid.
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Re: Why do we have to be so PC??
Scottie wrote:I think this is partially what frustrates me.
These smart men know that humans have these blind spots when talking about religion, that the ability for the brain to function in it's normal, analytical way is circumvented, yet they still refuse to believe that THEIR brain has this blind spot. No, it's everyone else that has this blind spot. Their religion is the right one.
Why is this?
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
We are all blinded to many things. Many are blinded by their worldview which prevents them from even the initial investigation into new things. I will admit that there are some things that I have formed opinions on that I will not spend time on. This is more of priority than anything else. We are all blind to the unseen, those things that act on this universe yet we can't directly perceive. I would say that spiritual warfare is going on all around us yet we can't see it. Science says there is dark mass out there. So blindness is accepted by all in some way or another. It is my belief that God wishes me to come to Him in faith. If that is so then all evidence of God is beyond my senses, except of course the spirit which is inside me. In fact no one can see the evidence of God. This fact drives the science types nuts. But blindness is different for different people and manifest in strange ways. Like some will say I have no sense of "reason" because I don't accept evolution as fact. I say that people of no spirit have no "reason" because they have rejected a path to answer the questions of purpose. Each side can call the other blind to logic. This is the world we live in. There is no magic argument that will change one worldview into another.
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Scottie wrote:
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
Will you admit to your own blind spots? - which, by the way, what you're proposing is impossible anyway. If you or I were to admit to our blindspots they wouldn't be blindspots. So I'm not quite sure what you're after here.
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Re: Why do we have to be so PC??
Scottie wrote:I think this is partially what frustrates me.
These smart men know that humans have these blind spots when talking about religion, that the ability for the brain to function in it's normal, analytical way is circumvented, yet they still refuse to believe that THEIR brain has this blind spot. No, it's everyone else that has this blind spot. Their religion is the right one.
Why is this?
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
I don't see it as a blind spot, Scottie. I see it as comparmentalized thinking. That is to say, we have one "box" that we place our religious belief/thought in, one that we place other things in such as or access to scientific thinking and so on a so forth.
I wasn't aware of this myself, in myself, until some hard nosed skeptics beat the intellectual crap out of me and made me VERY aware of it.
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To some extent, I am still compartmentalized in my thinking but I think we all are to some degree or another.
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Re: Why do we have to be so PC??
stemelbow wrote:Buffalo wrote:Could you expand on this comment?
faith to me is different and perhaps more than trust, as is often used ina secular sense. But everyone has faith and puts faith in things. The scientist puts faith in his/her experiments, in the "tried and tested" methodoligies that he's/she's been taught. In so doing i can't really see how that causes a mental block. Sure the methodologies may be proven wrong. But the scientist himself can still think. can still use his mental faculties in his analyzing.
Don't you think there's a clear difference between religious faith and the sort of faith one employs in, say, one's doctor? One is based really only on hope and tradition, the other on actual evidence.
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When I encounter a person who has a very shallow understanding of their religion and world views, I typically pass judgment on that person alone and not a category that contains a billion plus people.
Scottie, have you bothered to search out theists who are particularly well read in their faith tradition?
Scottie, have you bothered to search out theists who are particularly well read in their faith tradition?
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Re: Why do we have to be so PC??
Scottie wrote:I think this is partially what frustrates me.
These smart men know that humans have these blind spots when talking about religion, that the ability for the brain to function in it's normal, analytical way is circumvented, yet they still refuse to believe that THEIR brain has this blind spot. No, it's everyone else that has this blind spot. Their religion is the right one.
Why is this?
Believers, would you admit that you have a blind spot in your brain? That, unknown to you, your subconscious brain does not allow itself to question religious things?
And your blind spots? That don't allow you to see your own ignorance?
Honestly, Scottie this has nothing to do with "PC" and everything to do with good manners and being well read. Two things that should always go together.
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