Bill Maher on the Historicity of the Book of Mormon

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sock puppet wrote:Which other religions were started by a water witcher, using the same tools of witching to then divine the new religion's tome of scripture? With so many water witchers all over the world, there must be some.


HAH HAH!

What a riposte!
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I love this couple of lines from Bill Maher:
Bill Maher wrote:There's one question I always like to ask Prophets, and that is, "What did you do before you got into the prophecizing business?"

And the answer, with many of them, most prominently Joseph Smith, is "I was a conman."


BULLSEYE!

Bill Maher, you really should read "Rough Stone Rolling" by Richard Bushman. In that book Bushman explains how God uses "being a conman" as his method for training someone to be a Prophet.

What does this tell us about the office of Prophet, when it is something conmen "graduate" up to?
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Sethbag wrote: What does this tell us about the office of Prophet, when it is something conmen "graduate" up to?

People don't progress from being a conman to being a prophet. That's like saying a person can go from being a short order cook to flipping burgers.

It's the same damn thing... just a bit specialized.
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Re: Bill Maher on the Historicity of the Book of Mormon

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Given the subject matter for the commentary he was making, I thought Maher used remarkable restraint...




Maher’s opinion of Mormonism’s stupidity notwithstanding, nothing Maher says in his short clip about Joseph Smith is really factually inaccurate.

Maher is right is in that not a single place discovered, researched, or logged by modern archeology can be positively identified with the Book of Mormon narrative, characters, etc. Nobody in the Church should be shocked by this, yet we know there are many (the John Lund Tour of the Holy Land customer-types) who sincerely believe that Tulum is the city of Bountiful and that the Mayan stelae found at Palenque can only be a representation of Lehi’s Dream.

Maher is right that Joseph Smith was arrested for hiring himself out as a treasure seeker using his seer stones that he found as a youth. What Maher probably doesn’t yet know is that Joseph Smith had plenty of other criminal charges throughout his life. Recent research by the now-deceased Truman Madsen puts the total of civil suits and criminal suits during Joseph’s life at well over 100.

If Maher had known about the Nauvoo Expositor, which even some apologists have said was one of the biggest boners of Joseph Smith’s life – and that’s taking into account Fanny Alger and the others – he would’ve mentioned that.

I think Maher lets us Mormons off easy during his diatribes. We should be thankful he doesn’t know more.
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Yahoo Bot wrote:But get that master idiot lawyer Sock Puppet to weigh in. He usually opines as to the exact opposite of what the law would provide.

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Recent research by the now-deceased Truman Madsen puts the total of civil suits and criminal suits during Joseph’s life at well over 100.
That perhaps explains why the LDS Church built a law school in the 70s rather than a medical school. After all, William Law was a physician, and JSJr was the self-proclaimed "big lawyer".
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