The Cultural Hall Run-Around

[_harmony]

Call me crazy but in my limited experience, condoms found by the cleaning crew at a wedding meant someone was there looking to hook up and succeeded.

The cleaning crew at any reception in my ward building is the family and friends of the wedding party. There is no paid cleaning crew, so no strangers would be finding said evidence of sexual activity. So there would definitely not be any reporting of said evidence, in order to keep the facade in place.

[_honorentheos]

Hi Harmony -

I'm sure that's the case in most places. To me, the interesting thing about Bot's statement wasn't the detective story behind how these materials found their way onto church property (which would only entail speculation). Rather, it was how he responded to it.

For someone who was hypothetically valiant in the pre-existence advocating for Christ's plan that included agency, he sure seems to have switched sides in mortality.

Getting back to MsJack's idea in the OP, I personally can't say I have ever heard of this type of policy in any stake where I lived. But the few months I lived in Provo for a summer internship were certainly eye-opening. Not much would surprise me about people's non-Christian behaviour there. Don't get me wrong - I knew a lot of very good, nice people there. But I think any dominant culture anywhere you go becomes the vehicle for social jockeying, comparisons, and stratification. It gives one insight into New Testament Temple Judaism and the sort of things being protested in the Gospels by Christ.

[_Blixa]

But the few months I lived in Provo for a summer internship were certainly eye-opening. Not much would surprise me about people's non-Christian behaviour there. Don't get me wrong - I knew a lot of very good, nice people there. But I think any dominant culture anywhere you go becomes the vehicle for social jockeying, comparisons, and stratification. It gives one insight into New Testament Temple Judaism and the sort of things being protested in the Gospels by Christ.

Possibly the best description of Utah Valley I've ever read...

[_schreech]

Possibly the best description of Utah Valley I've ever read...

agreed...I actually grew up as Mormon on the east coast, got into BYU and worked my way through college as a waiter...cracked me up...The number of people that came into our place for a quick drink or cup of coffee before heading off to work at the temple made me laugh. It really helped me realize that: 1) Momoism is a joke, even to the people that claim to be devout considering i had 100s of people show me their recommend as I served them coffee and rum and cokes...they were proud....AND 2) that i would never want to raise children around a society of hypocrites like the ones i met in the utah valley...aside from that, i actually want my children to actually understand and accept other cultures - can't get that anywhere in utah (sorry Utahans, but its true....)

[_Jason Bourne]

MsJack got maried in a protestant church. Why would she want to use a Mormon reception hall for her reception?

Hmmm let me think... she said the Protestant Church where she was married was too small for a receptions, her new husband was Mormon and Mormons often use the cultural hall for receptions even when they are married elsewhere like a temple, or if not a temple perhaps they were married some where else and maybe they did not have the $$$ for a reception hall.

Sounds strange to me unless it was to save money.

Not strange at all.

How would you react to a woman who is basically antimormon

I don't think Ms Jack is an anti-Mormon.

who is married to a seemlngly inactive husband,

I think you are a dork for this one....well and really for most of what you post, but I am not sure where you get the idea her hubby was or is inactive. She says her husband takes their daughter to LDS Church services every other week and she takes her the other weeks to her church.

who gets married in a protestant church, approaches you to use the LDS cultrual hall for their wedding reception?

Quite fine thank you. If the husband was a member, active or inactive I would have let them. Of course I would have expected no liquor and other LDS standards would need to be imposed.

How would most bishops react?

I hope most would react like I would. Most I know would.

Could you control their acts and dress and language?

I have seen literally dozens of weddings receptions at our cultural hall that were for inactive or part member weddings. Even performed a few of those weddings. I have never had a problem with poor actions or

I think that it would be a big chance to take to allow such a reception in the hall.

Hardly.

[_cafe crema]

I'm not an anti-Mormon and my husband was not and is not inactive. He holds a temple recommend, pays his tithing, and kept the "law of chastity" prior to marriage. Things about life as a Mormon that you know nothing about.

I have read a lot of negative posts by you about the Mormon church. I haven't seen many positive posts written by you. So, basing my opinion by what I have read, I can say that you are not promormon. But, yes, I could be wrong. But going by your posts, I perhaps can say that you are not very positive about the LDS church.

I haven't read any positive posts by you about any church other than LDS and of course what you've said regarding non-LDS is quite negative. MsJack is correct in pointing out your bigotry towards Protestant faiths.

[_why me]

I haven't read any positive posts by you about any church other than LDS and of course what you've said regarding non-LDS is quite negative. MsJack is correct in pointing out your bigotry towards Protestant faiths.

You and your taliban catholic friends on the catholic apologetic site have made it a past time to attack the Mormon church. When I was on that forum I brought out that no faith has a perfect history nor perfect people. For me, it was laughable to see antimormon comments about Mormonism during the priest abuse scandal. Or to read negatives about Mormon history from catholics whose church is far from a perfect history. And of course, if one brings this up on the catholic taliban site, one gets reported and then banned.

In a nutshell: catholics and protestants do not need to be negative about the LDS church when their own church histories and people are far from perfect.

[_cafe crema]

I haven't read any positive posts by you about any church other than LDS and of course what you've said regarding non-LDS is quite negative. MsJack is correct in pointing out your bigotry towards Protestant faiths.

You and your taliban catholic friends on the catholic apologetic site have made it a past time to attack the Mormon church. When I was on that forum I brought out that no faith has a perfect history nor perfect people. For me, it was laughable to see antimormon comments about Mormonism during the priest abuse scandal. Or to read negatives about Mormon history from catholics whose church is far from a perfect history. And of course, if one brings this up on the catholic taliban site, one gets reported and then banned.

In a nutshell: catholics and protestants do not need to be negative about the LDS church when their own church histories and people are far from perfect.

More of the same, nothing positive from you.

[_Some Schmo]

Someone clue me in...

Why would Condoms be at a wedding reception?

...

But seriously…WTF.

I think you're missing the most obvious explanation: that this yahoo is full of crap.

Surely you know by now that the only way to defend the BS of the church is with more BS?

[_Yahoo Bot]

Someone clue me in...

Why would Condoms be at a wedding reception?

Parking lot shenanigans. Guests are warned not to smoke on the premises; they go to the parking lot to drink and smoke and do whatever. The "cleaning crew" from the family never cleans the parking lot in the middle of the night; the bishopric picks it up the next morning. Been there, done that.

[We've had a movie crew from an HBO shoot of "Big Love" gain unauthorized access to a ward building to use the restrooms and smoke; but that is a different story.]

The simple fact is that Mormons in California are considered a soft touch for funerals, weddings and wedding receptions. And they are. We're willing to do that for free when Protestants, reception halls and funeral halls expect payment. And I've willingly done my fair share of weddings and funerals for non-members.

One day I received a call from a county supervisor's regional field deputy asking that I perform such a service for an indigent couple because "Mormons do it for free" around here.

One day I received a call from a politician asking that I pay rent and hospital charges for a non-member teenage girl contemplating an abortion because she had nowhere to go, because "we know Mormons do things for free."

All those things Mormon bishops do behind the scenes and willingly because it is part of their Christian mission.

But unsupervised wedding receptions for people who aren't ward members are trouble. I can't see how that is a Christian mission or an obligation to provide a place to party that interferes with normal ward functions. Sorry - call me grumps -- but I don't see it. But, I was overridden.