Utahns think about suicide more than other Americans

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_Spurven Ten Sing
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Re: Utahns think about suicide more than other Americans

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Tchild wrote:Interesting.

Perhaps it is the cultural expectations of Utah Mormons? Young LDS are expected to abstain from normal sexual urges, serve dedicated missions and then marry young and begin running the often joyless, corporate hamster wheel supporting a large family and the empty materialistic demands that many LDS persons expect as proof of "blessings" from God.

Then again, it could just be the winters here. God knows my gun comes out of storage and just sits there on my bed desk begging me to put it to my temple and pull the trigger to escape the never ending cold, brown, grey and gloom.

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I have to call BS on this poll. My wife and I went and saw the new Footloose this weekend. The remake is set in rural Georgia, not Utah. How anyone can live in the rural SE and not think of killing themselves daily is beyond me. The fact that this poll shows the SE with the lowest percentage of people that think about suicide cannot be accurate.

That said, I get how true believing members would consider suicide at a higher rate than the population. Everyone faces pressure in their lives, but when the underlying pressure comes from the church it is backed up by guilt and a constant feeling that you are never doing enough in your life. Seems to effect women more than men, but effects men as well.
Add that to an increase in suicidal thoughts by young gay members who feel lost and without hope and I can see Utah topping the list.
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Tchild wrote:Interesting.

Perhaps it is the cultural expectations of Utah Mormons? Young LDS are expected to abstain from normal sexual urges, serve dedicated missions and then marry young and begin running the often joyless, corporate hamster wheel supporting a large family and the empty materialistic demands that many LDS persons expect as proof of "blessings" from God.

Then again, it could just be the winters here. God knows my gun comes out of storage and just sits there on my bed desk begging me to put it to my temple and pull the trigger to escape the never ending cold, brown, grey and gloom.


But the mid-west and the north-east have winter too and their rates are lower. North Dakota and Minnesota strike me as particularly bleak during winter.
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Was the emotional health of LDS members a discussion topic in General Conference this month? I don't recall many comforting words of wisdom to those who are deeply troubled by depression and suicidal thoughts.

It really would be interesting to know the profile of those who have these suicidal thoughts. If a good number of them are LDS, could their depression be associated with the feeling that God and his Prophets have abandoned them in their misery?

There certainly seems to be a lack of comforting words from the LDS leadership in regards to the misery some must feel.
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Not surprising. Utah is also the most depressed state. Mormonism is bad for you.
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Well at least Utahns just think about suicide the most.

Alaska and the Pacific northwest have the highest suicide rate.

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Johnson and Johnson: Started by the church then later sold; to be run by Predominant Mormons. Jensen is their Pharmaceutical branch.

Pfizer: Started by a Mormon who left Lilly Corp.(Mormon Board of Directors)

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