Romney Isn?????t Christian, and That?????s All Right: Jeffrey Goldbe

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Mormonism bears very little resemblance to first century Christianity.

We match it more doctrinally than ANY other christian church.

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I agree. Though the government cannot (and should not) require a religious test (due to the need to separate church and state), it is expedient that private citizens evaluate the capacity of each candidate to engage in rational thought (so that they do not end up with an irrational leader).

This is true. For example, all other things being equal, I would vote for the LDS candidate above any other.

A candidate's personal beliefs--whether they be religious or otherwise--are significant indicia of that candidate's capacity to engage in rational thought.

LDS are probably the most rational, logic, and scientific minds of any religion including atheism.

[_Ceeboo]

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[_Willy Law]

I agree. Though the government cannot (and should not) require a religious test (due to the need to separate church and state), it is expedient that private citizens evaluate the capacity of each candidate to engage in rational thought (so that they do not end up with an irrational leader).

This is true. For example, all other things being equal, I would vote for the LDS candidate above any other.

A candidate's personal beliefs--whether they be religious or otherwise--are significant indicia of that candidate's capacity to engage in rational thought.

LDS are probably the most rational, logic, and scientific minds of any religion including atheism.

I am now 100% sure you are a sock puppet goof

[_Jason Bourne]

Except the constitution is supposed to constrain government, not private citizens.

If I choose to support candidates who I believe are Christian to the exclusion of others, that doesn't make me any less American than those who choose to exclude Christians (or religionists) because they are Christians. Like some on this very board.

I have no problem with that.

[_Hughes]

LDS are probably the most rational, logic, and scientific minds of any religion including atheism.

Given that the LDS Church discourages it's members from reading anything they deem "anti" and given that the Church hides many of it's activities (where does the money go for example), and calls things "sacred" which aren't supposed to be talked about. Leads me to the opposite conclusion.

Given all that and much more, I question the ability of a follower of said LDS teachings to think critically and honestly analyze situations. I question their ability to discern the correct choice between a multitude of difficult options. To me, that is the largest problem.

[_Jason Bourne]

ETA: The part about Mormonism being an "Abrahamic" faith is interesting. I wonder if most mainstream Christians would be willing to accept it as such.

I wouldn't.

As noted, I do understand the theological reasons that historical Christianity excludes Mormonism from the Christian umbrella. However I certainly think since it has its roots in Judeo Christian tradition it certainly is as much an Abrahamic faith as is Judaism, Christianity and Islam. On what basis would you exclude it?

[_Molok]

Mormonism bears very little resemblance to first century Christianity.

We match it more doctrinally than ANY other christian church.

Naw, you're just lying on this one.

[_Cardinal Biggles]

Though the government cannot (and should not) require a religious test (due to the need to separate church and state),

I don't know anyone advocating otherwise. Do you?

Nope! I meant with all sincerety that we are in agreement! No sarcasm.

ETA: The part about Mormonism being an "Abrahamic" faith is interesting. I wonder if most mainstream Christians would be willing to accept it as such.

I wouldn't.

May I ask why not? I'm not saying that you're wrong not to think so, but I am genuinely curious to know why.

[_Cardinal Biggles]

A candidate's personal beliefs--whether they be religious or otherwise--are significant indicia of that candidate's capacity to engage in rational thought.

LDS are probably the most rational, logic, and scientific minds of any religion including atheism.

IMHO, anyone who believes that the Book of Abraham facsimilies translate into something other than what every Egyptologist agrees that they really mean cannot be considered at all rational, logical, or scientific. IMHO, anyone who believes in a medium of KAE-E-VANRASH as a medium through which one star borrows light or energy from another star cannot be considered at all rational, logical, or scientific.

Is KAE-E-VANRASH even a real Egyptian word?

by the way, atheism isn't a religion. Saying that atheism is a religion is like saying that not playing football is a sport.