Is this board hostile towards LDS posters...?
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I consider name calling and personal attacks to be hostile. Those go on here far too much, in my opinion. Attacking ideas and doctrines and practices are fair game. Of course, calling someones idea "stupid" is pretty much going to be received the same as if you called the person stupid and we just had a thread about that not too long ago. It shuts down communication.
I also see things called out as "hostile" that really aren't.
I also see things called out as "hostile" that really aren't.
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Ceeboo wrote:DrW wrote:IMHO, this board is no more hostile to LDS posters than any group of rational people who don't believe in nonsense would appear to any other group who do believe in nonsense, and are willing to defend their unfounded beliefs in public.
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Sincerely,
One who is clearly not rational, who holds precious unfounded beliefs, and does indeed believe in utter nonsense.
Ceeboo
I do think DrW can be forceful with some of his opinions, and even I to some extent, can you show what utter nonsense he believes in. Another words CFR. :)
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Themis wrote:I think this is why believing LDS avoids this place, and why people like Dan left. My impression of Dan is that he relishes attacks directed at him, and still posts other places where he gets attacked, but there, the number of idiots who don't really know the issues make for good targets. The problem is that the church is not true, and their is plenty of evidence to show this, and LDS defenders in the end cannot really provide much evidence to refute it. I can see why many may view this as hostile. That said, I do think some posters can be hostile to poster with apposing views, or in many cases view them that way simply because they disagree with their views.
No one relishes attacks directed at him. I think that's a convenient pass given by many posters here and people elsewhere to say to justify their own attacks. I suppose it'd be easy to paint people's intentions as something they are not. Which happens a lot here as it pertains to Dan and many other LDS. Not that it can't go the other way.
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I think that LDS posters and, to a lesser extent, other religious posters, encounter a fair share of unprovoked hostilities here. It is a very difficult environment to post in. Joseph Antley and ttribe are two examples that come to mind of LDS posters who seem to have attracted a lot of unprovoked mockery and teasing even though their posts are/were almost always respectful in tone.
That said, there are also LDS posters here (and one wanna-be LDS poster) who consistently treat other posters poorly. They are rude without provocation or they smear anyone who disagrees with them as an "anti-Mormon" or they viciously misread the arguments of others or they are frequently and inappropriately condescending and mean-spirited. I have a hard time feeling sorry for those posters when they encounter large quantities of hostility and negativity. It seems logical to me that if you're an ass to a whole bunch of different people, those people are likely to return fire en masse when they get the chance. At least 90% of the so-called "dogpiles" on LDS posters at this forum can be explained by this.
Or in other words . . .
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That said, there are also LDS posters here (and one wanna-be LDS poster) who consistently treat other posters poorly. They are rude without provocation or they smear anyone who disagrees with them as an "anti-Mormon" or they viciously misread the arguments of others or they are frequently and inappropriately condescending and mean-spirited. I have a hard time feeling sorry for those posters when they encounter large quantities of hostility and negativity. It seems logical to me that if you're an ass to a whole bunch of different people, those people are likely to return fire en masse when they get the chance. At least 90% of the so-called "dogpiles" on LDS posters at this forum can be explained by this.
Or in other words . . .
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Themis wrote:I do think DrW can be forceful with some of his opinions, and even I to some extent, can you show what utter nonsense he believes in. Another words CFR. :)
Forceful would be the nice way to put it. There's forceful and there is unabashed disrespect, which I would say it hostile.
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stemelbow wrote:
No one relishes attacks directed at him. I think that's a convenient pass given by many posters here and people elsewhere to say to justify their own attacks. I suppose it'd be easy to paint people's intentions as something they are not. Which happens a lot here as it pertains to Dan and many other LDS. Not that it can't go the other way.
It's just an observation, and could be wrong. I am not advocating attacking Dan, and said so in earlier post here.
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MsJack wrote:That said, there are also LDS posters here (and one wanna-be LDS poster) who consistently treat other posters poorly. They are rude without provocation or they smear anyone who disagrees with them as an "anti-Mormon" or they viciously misread the arguments of others or they are frequently and inappropriately condescending and mean-spirited. I have a hard time feeling sorry for those posters when they encounter large quantities of hostility and negativity. It seems logical to me that if you're an ass to a whole bunch of different people, those people are likely to return fire en masse when they get the chance. At least 90% of the so-called "dogpiles" on LDS posters at this forum can be explained by this.
Or in other words . . .
"Why do my actions have consequences!?" - Homer Simpson
I think that's a funny view. As it is, I'll wager you have me in mind, but as I said, I was mocked and derided by posters here before I ever came here. And when I did, i tried to laugh a long but in return I got a mouthful of hostility from posters here. It would be far more convenient to say, "stem deserves it" for you in your position, then to realize that there is far more to it than that.
As it is, saying you're wrong is not something to provoke the hostilities you came at me with. In your mind, though, you actually think me saing you're wrong is justification for you to respond with hostility to me. That's just a small example, of course.
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MsJack wrote:That said, there are also LDS posters here (and one wanna-be LDS poster) who consistently treat other posters poorly. They are rude without provocation or they smear anyone who disagrees with them as an "anti-Mormon" or they viciously misread the arguments of others or they are frequently and inappropriately condescending and mean-spirited.
Right on, sister.
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stemelbow wrote:As it is, I'll wager you have me in mind, but as I said, I was mocked and derided by posters here before I ever came here.
Maybe you did. I wasn't paying attention to your entry onto this forum.
But you've whined about unprovoked hostilities from me, when in fact the hostilities I showed you were more than provoked.
Either way, I'm not interested in hearing any more of your ego apologetics. Give it up.
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Re: Is this board hostile towards LDS posters...?
Well, the board guidelines allow for hostile interrogation and discussion of the content of a persons post. They don't allow for hostility of a personal nature directed at the poster themselves.
From what I have seen, the mods do a decent job of policing and enforcing this.
In recent times a number of posters making personal attacks have been sin binned, so it seems the guidelines and the moderation works.
From what I have seen, the mods do a decent job of policing and enforcing this.
In recent times a number of posters making personal attacks have been sin binned, so it seems the guidelines and the moderation works.
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