Children spend up to 10 hours a day in day care.

[_hugh jass]

Not working outside of the home long term is the worst mistake a modern woman can make.

[_Cardinal Biggles]

Not working outside of the home long term is the worst mistake a modern woman can make.

Oh, I could probably think of one or two mistakes that might be worse. ;P Anything involving the ingestion of heroin balloons, for example...

[_EAllusion]

For the record, whyme's argument in the other thread wasn't that parents should spend more time at home with their children as they are able. It was that women - and women specifically - in relationships should spend more time at home with their children and ideally be homemakers. The former is defensible and uncontroversial. The latter is sexist and dumb.

[_Yoda]

For the record, whyme's argument in the other thread wasn't that parents should spend more time at home with their children as they are able. It was that women - and women specifically - in relationships should spend more time at home with their children and ideally be homemakers. The former is defensible and uncontroversial. The latter is sexist and dumb.

QFT +1000

[_cafe crema]

For the record, whyme's argument in the other thread wasn't that parents should spend more time at home with their children as they are able. It was that women - and women specifically - in relationships should spend more time at home with their children and ideally be homemakers. The former is defensible and uncontroversial. The latter is sexist and dumb.

His other argument was that the church had no problem with women working.

[_just me]

For the record, whyme's argument in the other thread wasn't that parents should spend more time at home with their children as they are able. It was that women - and women specifically - in relationships should spend more time at home with their children and ideally be homemakers. The former is defensible and uncontroversial. The latter is sexist and dumb.

His other argument was that the church had no problem with women working.

He has also said that women are natural nurturers and childless women should gain employment working with children. Seems that childcare would be a fit according to his outlook.

[_hugh jass]

He has also said that women are natural nurturers and childless women should gain employment working with children. Seems that childcare would be a fit according to his outlook.

whyme has clearly demonstrated in past posts that he is no expert nor role model on anything related to marriage, raising children, or women. Well that is women who are clothed and not being paid to keep his credit card on file at several online websites.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

I wonder if why me still thinks Finland is in Scandinavia?

[_why me]

Yes, please explain why Mia Love, the mother of three young children and the Mayor of Saratoga Springs, is featured in an "I Am A Mormon" spot.

Surely her children would be better off if she stayed at home and nurtured them. Where are those kids all day long while mom is being Ms. Mayor? Daycare, perhaps?

The situation in the article that I posted is just a litte a little different than your comparison. It is not uncommon in finland for children to spend 10 hours in daycare while both parents are working. Now I don't blame the parents at all because the nature of work has changed. It has become more demanding and time consuming in that particular country. But when the state becomes the main parent and it does a poor job, eventually the state will pay for it when the children become teens and adults. And in the thread where I posted information about the consequences of long hours in day care is a witness to that.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/06/unde ... 46466.html

http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/03/stud ... fresh=null

Parents are forgetting how to be parents. Now the situation is not so different in the USA either. Studies have shown bad parenting affects the childs values and lifestyle later in life.

[_why me]

For the record, whyme's argument in the other thread wasn't that parents should spend more time at home with their children as they are able. It was that women - and women specifically - in relationships should spend more time at home with their children and ideally be homemakers. The former is defensible and uncontroversial. The latter is sexist and dumb.

Actually no that wasn't my agrument at all. I think that I did say that we are living in a changing world. It is becoming increasingly impossible for one parent to stay at home and raise the children. And this is a problem especially if parents are becoming part time parents. Now if one parent can stay at home, the woman would be the most suitable, if this woman knew basic parenting skills. But since parents are becoming part time parents, and since we don't actually encourage people to be stay at home parents, it has become a mute point.

The point: the socioeconomic system is forcing both parents to work to make ends meat and this creates problems for the children later on as they need a parent to guide them through life.