bcspace wrote:How about this excellent excuse not to go to Church:
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.
Deuteronomy 23:1
lol- Good one.
bcspace wrote:How about this excellent excuse not to go to Church:
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.
Deuteronomy 23:1
Some Schmo wrote:I'd love to hear the Bible apologetic for this crap. Oh how the Bible is a shining source of morality!
Shulem wrote:Some Schmo wrote:I'd love to hear the Bible apologetic for this crap. Oh how the Bible is a shining source of morality!
You have to remember that Moses was not only a brutal tyrant -- he was a murderer. His religion was utterly ugly and full of abomination -- brutal, sick, cruel, and so forth.
Then came Christianity which was just another take-off of the whole Abraham sacrifice Isaac saga. The doctrine of the atonement is really sick stuff. The God of the Bible is a God lacking in compassion and is blood thirsty and wants to see suffering before he can settle down and show a little love. He is brutal and violent to the extreme. This whole business of having to sacrifice his beloved son just to work up enough courage to forgive us sinners is utterly stupid. Shame on the God of the Bible! He needs to repent! Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible that even God repents? I believe it does.
Paul O
Well, the tenth generation of a bastard is responsible for the g-g-g-grandparents deeds, the eleventh is not. Has some logic.Deuteronomy 23:2 wrote:A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
... the tenth generation thing again...Deuteronomy 23:3 wrote:An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:
So, David was a third generation of a Moabite. and Salamon, who has build the Temple, was of fourth...Book of Ruth wrote:1:1. Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land. And a certain man of Bethlehemjudah went to sojourn in the country of Moab, he, and his wife, and his two sons.
1:2. And the name of the man was Elimelech, and the name of his wife Naomi, and the name of his two sons Mahlon and Chilion, Ephrathites of Bethlehemjudah. And they came into the country of Moab, and continued there.
1:3. And Elimelech Naomi's husband died; and she was left, and her two sons.
1:4. And they took them wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth:
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1:16. And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God:
1:17. Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the LORD do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me.
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1:22. So Naomi returned, and Ruth the Moabitess, her daughter in law, with her, which returned out of the country of Moab: and they came to Bethlehem in the beginning of barley harvest.
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3:7. And when Boaz had eaten and drunk, and his heart was merry, he went to lie down at the end of the heap of corn: and she came softly, and uncovered his feet, and laid her down.
3:8. And it came to pass at midnight, that the man was afraid, and turned himself: and, behold, a woman lay at his feet.
3:9. And he said, Who art thou? And she answered, I am Ruth thine handmaid: spread therefore thy skirt over thine handmaid; for thou art a near kinsman.
3:10. And he said, Blessed be thou of the LORD, my daughter: for thou hast shewed more kindness in the latter end than at the beginning, inasmuch as thou followedst not young men, whether poor or rich.
3:11. And now, my daughter, fear not; I will do to thee all that thou requirest:
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13. So Boaz took Ruth, and she was his wife: and when he went in unto her, the LORD gave her conception, and she bare a son.
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17. And the women her neighbours gave it a name, saying, There is a son born to Naomi; and they called his name Obed: he is the father of Jesse, the father of David.
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22. And Obed begat Jesse, and Jesse begat David.
Shulem wrote:ludwigm,
Oh my God! Fanny Alger and Joseph Smith had sex in a corn field? I didn't know that. Wow, Mormonism is pretty deep stuff. I wonder if Brigham Young would have had sex with Fanny too.
Paul O
Criticism
How did Emma learn about Joseph's marriage to Fanny Alger? I've heard they were discovered together in the barn. Was Fanny pregnant?
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McLellin’s account here refers to the Fanny Alger incident as “where the first well authenticated case of polygamy took place.”
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G. D. Smith avoids labeling Fanny a wife since this weakens his thesis that Joseph was sexually driven.
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The facts seem to be that Emma became aware of the marriage at some point, probably involved Oliver and perhaps other church leaders, and was upset enough to eventually insist that Fanny leave her home.
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Conclusion
The bulk of the evidence seems to show that Fanny and Joseph were regarded as married, even by hostile witnesses.
It was filtered out, OK. Rule is rule. Or orders are orders. (Hungarian saying, translate it anyway You can.)ludwigm wrote:Boaz ****** Ruth, so they became married.
Ruth 3:13 wrote:So Boaz took Ruth, and she was his wife: and when he went in unto her
aussieguy55 wrote:I found this strange passage
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are in a fight and the wife of the one man, trying to
rescue her husband, grabs the genitals of the man hitting him, you are to cut off her
hand. Show no pity."
So much for standing by your man
Let the wind blow, let the orchard sway,
Let the clouds gather together and the raindrops fall!
Let my potency flow like running river water!
Let my penis be taught like a harp string,
Let it not slip out of her!
If the finger is pointed at a man's wife about another man, but she is not caught sleeping with the other man, she shall jump into the river for her husband.
If a man strike a free-born woman so that she lose her unborn child, he shall pay ten shekels for her loss. If the woman die, his daughter shall be put to death.
If a man give his child to a nurse and the child die in her hands, but the nurse unbeknown to the father and mother nurse another child, then they shall convict her of having nursed another child without the knowledge of the father and mother and her breasts shall be cut off.
ludwigm wrote:Boaz ****** Ruth, so they became married.
The bulk of the evidence (The Bible...) seems to show that they were regarded as married.