The greater fraud?

[_Buffalo]

Internet Mormon misrepresent both the outside world as it really is, Mormon history, and Mormon doctrine. Chapel Mormons only misrepresent the first two. Internet Mormonism is the greater fraud.

[_just me]

Wow. Old thread is old.

[_asbestosman]

Do you also believe there is much misinformation on David Koresh?

Not as much, no. I believe people are much more careful in keeping records, verifying sources, etc. nowadays. I hope that's not such a terrible double-standard.

Is this thread necromancy the result of a Halloween seance or something?

[_Dr. Shades]

Nope, it's just that I was perusing old threads and noticed this opinion of yours that I needed clarification on.

So, your main reason for disregarding the negative information you learn about Joseph Smith--as opposed to the negative information you learn about any other religious leader--is that you think the record-keeping and methods of verification were less accurate 160 years ago? Do I have that right?

[_sock puppet]

Do you also believe there is much misinformation on David Koresh?

Not as much, no. I believe people are much more careful in keeping records, verifying sources, etc. nowadays. I hope that's not such a terrible double-standard.

No, not a double-standard in my book. Indeed, it is an application to the difference of recordkeeping over time, only you are applying from the 19th Century forward to the late 20th Century. In the other direction, the 19th Century back in time to when other religions were being formulated, the difference is why Mormonism is such a rich treasure trove of historical record (and thus target for disproving) compared to other, older religions.

[_asbestosman]

So, your main reason for disregarding the negative information you learn about Joseph Smith--as opposed to the negative information you learn about any other religious leader--is that you think the record-keeping and methods of verification were less accurate 160 years ago? Do I have that right?

More or less.

I also think it's easier to verify something that happened more recently because it's easier to ask additional questions of people who still have a pulse--whether it be witnesses or the individual in question (preferably both). Furthermore, our technology is such that we can sometimes get additional information from the scene itself such as DNA.

Neither witnesses nor DNA is foolproof evidence, but they can help build a stronger case about what is likely to have happened.

[_bcspace]

Poll fail.

1. Can't vote since there is no such dichotomy.
2. The options each consitute a logical fallacy (petitio principii).

[_Nightlion]

The fraud is found in the fact that there is no such dichotomy.

A great many dichotomies are more or less artificial constructs that serve as heuristic devices. Why be such a nitpicker?

Kish, good to see your true face again. What would greatly resolve the problem of, BC Space, would be to hear the voice of her clear bluish monotone drone.

[_Kishkumen]

Kish, good to see your true face again. What would greatly resolve the problem of, BC Space, would be to hear the voice of her clear bluish monotone drone.

I posted that a long time ago, Nightlion. What do you mean by my "true face"?

[_Dr. Shades]

I also think it's easier to verify something that happened more recently because it's easier to ask additional questions of people who still have a pulse--whether it be witnesses or the individual in question (preferably both). Furthermore, our technology is such that we can sometimes get additional information from the scene itself such as DNA.

Neither witnesses nor DNA is foolproof evidence, but they can help build a stronger case about what is likely to have happened.

FAIR enough, but if you use that paradigm to disregard the negative claims about Joseph Smith, then why don't you use that same paradigm to disregard the positive claims about Joseph Smith? 'Cause it's really, really looking like a double-standard from this end.

1. Can't vote since there is no such dichotomy.

"No such dichotomy," eh? Did Noah's flood cover every square inch of planet earth?

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