Knowledge of good and evil = ashamed of being naked
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Sorry. Messed up my post. Never mind.
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Your avatar looks like she'd appreciate a good codpiece.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Your avatar looks like she'd appreciate a good codpiece.
Lol. Quite possibly.
However, to address the OP, I've always thought this story has more to do with our vulnerability. That is A&E were willing, even joyful, at being completely vulnerable to God and each other. The evil is NOT willing to be vulnerable to God and each other. So the evil is not from nakedness in and of itself, but from not willing to be naked in every respect.
Which, of course, gets into a lot of things well beyond the OP, but that's my take on it.
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Some thoughts I've had on this subject:
Adam and Eve were made aware of the concept of nakedness by Satan. He instructed them to cover their nakedness. I think Satan may have done this to mock God. Satan had seen this "scenario" many times before and knew that the next step for Adam and Eve was to receive the animal skins from Elohim with the sacred covenants that would come with them. Getting them to wear a fig leaf would symbolize that Adam and Eve had succumbed to the influence of Satan.
Adam and Eve were made aware of the concept of nakedness by Satan. He instructed them to cover their nakedness. I think Satan may have done this to mock God. Satan had seen this "scenario" many times before and knew that the next step for Adam and Eve was to receive the animal skins from Elohim with the sacred covenants that would come with them. Getting them to wear a fig leaf would symbolize that Adam and Eve had succumbed to the influence of Satan.
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Hoops wrote:Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Your avatar looks like she'd appreciate a good codpiece.
Lol. Quite possibly.
However, to address the OP, I've always thought this story has more to do with our vulnerability. That is A&E were willing, even joyful, at being completely vulnerable to God and each other. The evil is NOT willing to be vulnerable to God and each other. So the evil is not from nakedness in and of itself, but from not willing to be naked in every respect.
Which, of course, gets into a lot of things well beyond the OP, but that's my take on it.
They didn't cover up there elbows, did they?
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GR33N wrote:Some thoughts I've had on this subject:
Adam and Eve were made aware of the concept of nakedness by Satan. He instructed them to cover their nakedness. I think Satan may have done this to mock God. Satan had seen this "scenario" many times before and knew that the next step for Adam and Eve was to receive the animal skins from Elohim with the sacred covenants that would come with them. Getting them to wear a fig leaf would symbolize that Adam and Eve had succumbed to the influence of Satan.
Do you think, then, that the aprons in the temple are Satanic?
Do you think nudist colonies, then, are more god-like than clothes wearing is?
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Let us pause and thank the Lord for blessing us with animal skin coverings.


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sock puppet wrote:Do you think, then, that the aprons in the temple are Satanic?
No, maybe just symbolic of our mortal probation and being subject to temptation.
sock puppet wrote:Do you think nudist colonies, then, are more god-like than clothes wearing is?
No, wearing certain clothing is commanded of God.
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This suggests that knowledge of good and evil is connected to a knowledge of the concept of nakedness, and shame, and wanting to cover up one's genitals so others cannot seem them.
Sure. Sin is defined so we can be enticed to it or away from it. That is the purpose of life. If we lived in ignorant bliss, there would be no progression.
Is nakedness evil?
Depends on the circumstances.
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bcspace wrote:This suggests that knowledge of good and evil is connected to a knowledge of the concept of nakedness, and shame, and wanting to cover up one's genitals so others cannot seem them.
Sure. Sin is defined so we can be enticed to it or away from it. That is the purpose of life. If we lived in ignorant bliss, there would be no progression.
So...to learn more and progress further we should sin more...
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