2011 stemelbow whiner of the year award goes to...

[_sock puppet]

The problem Schmo is the dog piling that goes on..and you are part of the group that does it.

It would be really easy for stem to avoid the dog piling... he quits writing stupid s*** (which would likely mean he'd have to stop posting).

You are an ass hole.

Yeah, sometimes. And sometimes, you're a dumb ass.

marg,

Have you considered why stem writes the way he does? One of the things that the opening to public view last evening of thecafeteria revealed was that stem actually can compose intelligible sentences. So his affect here is a put on. He's inviting that very dog piling and ridicule.

stem worked long and hard to win this award. You might compare Scotty's posts in this thread. Clever, but stem is the living embodiment here at MDB of this award. Scotty, sorry to say, will never even be in the running.

[_Some Schmo]

You are an ass hole.

Just out of curiosity, did you say this because you are very bored and it made your life feel more exciting?

[_stemelbow]

stem,

Congratulations! You have been bestowed the most unusual honor in the history of Cassius University. Its regents met today (and were damn thankful they are regents of Cassius U and not Penn State), and considered the name change to the award.

They not only took my suggestion of adding your name to the awards title going forward, but the regents (in their infinite wisdom) went two steps further. First, they instructed me to make yours the only attributed name in the title. Second, they instructed me to make the name change retroactive.

So, you will note the change in the name of this thread. You are the first ever, 2011 award winner of--[trumpets blowing]--the stemelbow whiner of the year award.

My hat is off to you, stemelbow. You earned it! (I am so verclempt, all I can say is, talk amongst yourselves... .)

I'm glad my petition and ttribe's recent pleas to you made an impact. Now you can solely focus on whining about my whining, who incidentally whines about your whining which happens to start it all. As with most awards, its a big sham, but whatever.

[_stemelbow]

Stem

I really don't know why some people spend so much time posting insults to you. I find your posts to be level headed (obviously I don't agree with your religious beliefs for the most part). I don't know what their problem is, I really don't. I think basically those that spend their time posting frequent insults, must be very bored and to them perhaps that makes their lives feel more exciting.

I appreciate the response, Marg. Don't worry about it though. They need some folks to go after. That's juts how they operate. I'll gladly take a few hostile put downs from them every so often (the frequency will only grow, it seems).

Peace to you and good luck.

[_marg]

You are an ass hole.

Just out of curiosity, did you say this because you are very bored and it made your life feel more exciting?

No..the real reason I said it was because I'm still pissed at you from that thread you commented in to support Stak. Why that pissed me off is because you were oblivious to why his attack was unjustified. You didn't understand the issue on induction. I thought you could see through BS..and it pissed me off that you didn't. I also don't like your contributions to the dog piling that goes on, on this board towards Stem. One on one insult throwing is fair..dog piling by a few or group on one, I don't respect. You're not an ass-hole.

[_Some Schmo]

No..the real reason I said it was because I'm still pissed at you from that thread you commented in to support Stak. Why that pissed me off is because you were oblivious to why his attack was unjustified. You didn't understand the issue on induction. I thought you could see through b***s***..and it pissed me off that you didn't.

Don't confuse indifference with misunderstanding. I barely read most of it. While I don't remember all the details of our exchange there, I do seem to remember calling you out on certain comments about Stak (something about him not backing his claims up). Stak does try to back up his claims, That's all I was getting at as far as I remember.

Trust me; I don't always agree with Stak, and I'm often critical of the crap he says. But I wouldn't dishonestly claim he doesn't attempt to back up what he says.

I don't always agree with you, either, but I have come to your defense in the past when I felt it was warranted. Do you remember that?

I also don't like your contributions to the dog piling that goes on, on this board towards Stem. One on one insult throwing is fair..dog piling by a few or group on one, I don't respect. You're not an ass-hole.

I'm not on a team here, marg. I am aligned with my own integrity; that's it. I compliment and criticize as the situation dictates and I see fit. If stem is getting dog-piled, there's likely a really good reason for it. As sock puppet recently (and smartly) pointed out, what may seem like dog-piling is just several people's individual reaction to particular posts. The posters on this board are not one big globular mass; they are individuals with their own thoughts.

One thing you should know about me by now is that I don't consider this board a popularity contest, and I don't post in an attempt to get people to like me. I have no illusions that I'm loved here. I post for one basic reason, and that is to articulate what I'm thinking at any given time. That's it. How people react to that is up to them. I get enough love in my private life. I don't need it online (not that I'm bothered by it if I receive it... I just don't crave it. That's all.)

[_Yoda]

Now you can solely focus on whining about my whining, who incidentally whines about your whining which happens to start it all.

I just found my new sig! LOL

[_marg]

Don't confuse indifference with misunderstanding. I barely read most of it. While I don't remember all the details of our exchange there, I do seem to remember calling you out on certain comments about Stak (something about him not backing his claims up). Stak does try to back up his claims, That's all I was getting at as far as I remember.

That's just it Schmo, you didn't understand the discussion and what went down. But your comment and interest was to back Stak. Because I knew you didn't understand the issue, I made some comment to that effect and that I wasn't interested in your input.

Trust me; I don't always agree with Stak, and I'm often critical of the s*** he says. But I wouldn't dishonestly claim he doesn't attempt to back up what he says.

What's that got to do with anything here, I'm not following. Did I ever claim he doesn't back up his stuff? I'm not sure what you are getting at. Again, I think your comment has to do with you not understanding the issue/concept in the discussion ..which was induction and not following or as you pointed out "you barely read most of it".

I don't always agree with you, either, but I have come to your defense in the past when I felt it was warranted. Do you remember that?

Is there some particular discussion or topic you are referring to? All I know is I got no support..except recently by Tarski..and Stak was wrong. And your input which began supporting him when I knew you had no clue ..as I said I found irritating.

I also don't like your contributions to the dog piling that goes on, on this board towards Stem. One on one insult throwing is fair..dog piling by a few or group on one, I don't respect. You're not an ass-hole.

I'm not on a team here, marg. I am aligned with my own integrity; that's it. I compliment and criticize as the situation dictates and I see fit. If stem is getting dog-piled, there's likely a really good reason for it. As sock puppet recently (and smartly) pointed out, what may seem like dog-piling is just several people's individual reaction to particular posts. The posters on this board are not one big globular mass; they are individuals with their own thoughts.

I disagree with you that the posters on this forum "are individuals with their own thoughts" sure there are some but not the vast majority. There is a hell of a lot of petty minded tribalism that goes on on this forum strengthened by behind the scenes talking.

One thing you should know about me by now is that I don't consider this board a popularity contest, and I don't post in an attempt to get people to like me. I have no illusions that I'm loved here. I post for one basic reason, and that is to articulate what I'm thinking at any given time. That's it. How people react to that is up to them. I get enough love in my private life. I don't need it online (not that I'm bothered by it if I receive it... I just don't crave it. That's all.)

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Even if you don't crave acceptance..the fair thing to do is not join in with others in attacking. If you are in discussion with someone, fine...insult/attack ...whatever. But unprovoked and when not in a discussion with a person...I don't agree with that..especially when it's done to excess. What's the point, why the necessity?

Anyhow please don't mistake my post here for me caring much about this board.. I'm actually really sick and tired of the topic Mormonism. Out of habit I still come but I don't have much if any interest in the vast majority of topics and posts here and for the most part the little I read I read with apathy.

[_marg]

I appreciate the response, Marg. Don't worry about it though. They need some folks to go after. That's juts how they operate. I'll gladly take a few hostile put downs from them every so often (the frequency will only grow, it seems).

Peace to you and good luck.

in my opinion it's been excessive and uncalled for towards you. I saw that same type of posting behavior on at the FAIR board when I read it years ago. Some people I expect it from, others I don't.

[_marg]

marg,

Have you considered why stem writes the way he does? One of the things that the opening to public view last evening of thecafeteria revealed was that stem actually can compose intelligible sentences. So his affect here is a put on. He's inviting that very dog piling and ridicule.

stem worked long and hard to win this award. You might compare Scotty's posts in this thread. Clever, but stem is the living embodiment here at MDB of this award. Scotty, sorry to say, will never even be in the running.

I just noticed your post SP. Well I haven't been reading the Terrestial level closely for the past year or so. The first time I really noticed stem's posts was when Stak wrote that I was like him (or something to that effect) and it was meant to be derogatory. I had no idea what that meant. So I have read a few of Stem's posts recently..he thinks the Book of Mormon is historical for example...and I can appreciate people disagreeing with him. What I don't do SP because I think it's cowardly, not right and I disagree with that sort of posting behavior, is I don't join in with others in a thread to dog pile, I don't encourage others to do so, I make judgements of others by what I read by them not on what others say etc. I may insult someone in a discussion mainly because I disagree with them but generally I don't insult individuals without warrant which I give or it being part of a discussion I'm having with them or it being something they've said about me. I don't pipe up in threads out of the blue for the simple purpose of harassing anyone, and my insults are generally not of the type of telling someone they are a "damned retard". Those things I refrain from because I don't respect that sort of posting behavior. I guess it is all part of message board game playing rhetoric...when unchecked by moderation.

I disagree with your action of starting up a thread for the sole purpose of attacking and insulting Stem. If you had a one on one beef with him and he said something about you or disagreed with a point you made..then yes, start up a thread and address it or insult if warranted and backed up with reasoning.

As far as your criticism of Stem's posts being unintelligible..every thing I've read by him has been intelligible.

I've been subjected to ridicule and attacks so I can empathize with anyone I see getting treatment along the same lines. It's generally cowards piping in to help others attack...and a function of tribalism. If they want to attack...do it one on one..and back up their attacks.

Deal with Stem one on one. There is no necessity nor is it right, for this kind of crap of starting up attack threads on one individual with the idea of encouraging others to join in and/or knowing you have others who will likely pipe up in the thread with their 2 cent derogatory remarks.