When Did the MAD Board "Jump The Shark"?

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Re: When Did the MAD Board "Jump The Shark"?

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beastie wrote: Of course in an open, evenly moderated situation, believers are going to be continually frustrated. It's not that critics are smarter or better debaters. It's just that critics don't have the handicap that believers do: trying to defend what is often simply indefensible. So the game has to be rigged.


That is, in my experience, true of all boards in which LDS believers discuss with former believers or non-believers.

The fact that the CoJCoLDS originated in a relatively recent period, from which lots of non-church evidence survives, as well as the audacious nature of some of the claims it makes (think Book of Abraham) makes their task just next to impossible in an open forum. I would make an exception for encounters with naïve evangelical Christians, whom they sometimes succeed in silencing by showing (in effect) that their critics' beliefs are as weird as their own (that's not quite how they put it).

Beastie's characterization is also true of this board.

The only way it could really succeed in making LDS believers comfortable en masse would be to enact strict controls on how far arguments can be pressed, and how critical one is allowed to be of a retreating opponent. That is just not going to happen, so there will always be only a small number of TBM posters active at any given time. The ones who stick around will be mostly the thick-skinned, the obsessive and those with the gift of ignoring arguments and evidence that don't suit them. I name no names. And of course there are also those who are really on their way out anyway.
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Chap wrote:
That is, in my experience, true of all boards in which LDS believers discuss with former believers or non-believers.


Well, there was UTLM. There, LDS posters faced absurd moderation. And that's happened on CARM as well. I think the critical difference is 1) LDS can hold their own or simply be right on many arguments with those groups and 2) The people who control the board hold their opinions due to their own fundamentalist religious beliefs.

The censorious, vaguely Orwellian conversation-controlling that occurs on MADB has been the norm in my experience on any online format where the people in charge are defending a dubious movement with a fundamentalist-like mentality. It happens all the time on evangelical boards and blogs too be it creationist or "counter-cult." But more than that, you can see it in fringe movements like the anti-vaccine crowd, homeopaths, birthers, etc.

By contrast, if you go to most atheist or "skeptic" haunts, you'll see not only more openness, but an intense desire to have free exchange with skeptics of their viewpoint archived for posterity. To a fault, really. I don't think that's because they always win arguments mind you. People like marg crawl all over places like that. It's more a cultural belief that not only will dialectic vindicate them, but that even if it doesn't truth is the goal anyway. It's not a mission. Of course, that's an easier attitude to have when you aren't defending nonsense.
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why me wrote:Probably not. Threads tend to get repeated eventually. From all the years I have been on the board and other Mormon boards, I have seen very little original threads about Mormons and Mormonism, especially on this site. It is usually the same old, same old with the usual responses. No different on any board that discusses a specific subject.

It was far from just "repeat-topic" threads that got deleted. For example, the thread under discussion in this thread, which was a pretty huge embarrassment to all the parties involved, was deleted. Almost all of the threads from my dispute with DCP last summer were deleted.
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I think the biggest change since I participated there long ago is that it has diversified quite a bit in its participation base and its moderation. Not to suggest it's more balanced, but rather, more random. Old-school FAIRites fancied themselves as "liberal," some connected with other liberal Mormon blogs, and the new guard is dyed-in-the-wool Tea Party.
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Has anyone here besides me found themselves banned after not having even tried to post there for several months?
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Darth J wrote:Has anyone here besides me found themselves banned after not having even tried to post there for several months?


That's nothing. I was banned after a single pm. Never even posted.

(I had only registered to pm, I think, Ceeboo and Bond, when MDB was down during l'affair SeattleGhostWriter, in order find out what had happened, where people were, etc.)
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Blixa wrote:
Darth J wrote:Has anyone here besides me found themselves banned after not having even tried to post there for several months?


That's nothing. I was banned after a single pm. Never even posted.

(I had only registered to pm, I think, Ceeboo and Bond, when MDB was down during l'affair SeattleGhostWriter, in order find out what had happened, where people were, etc.)


But I didn't even send a PM (nor would I be foolish enough to do so there).
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I don't believe I have posted there in quite sometime but I still have access. I use a different screen name there though.
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Fence Sitter wrote:I don't believe I have posted there in quite sometime but I still have access. I use a different screen name there though.


Oh, good. That means I can go over there under the name "Fence Sitter."
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I've never posted on MAD/MDD, but I've been banned over there for my discourse over here. For some reason, they don't even want me to read what's posted over there.
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