a five+ year crusade of character assassination

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sock puppet wrote:It's personal because Dan is attacking the messenger (whether in real life identity or a pen name), not the message.


It still isn't personal. What if I attacked "free2rhyme," an online pseudonym I've never met and have no idea who the person is behind the pseudonym. Would that be personal?

Is the following statement personal:

Freetorhyme is stupid.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
sock puppet wrote:It's personal because Dan is attacking the messenger (whether in real life identity or a pen name), not the message.


It still isn't personal. What if I attacked "free2rhyme," an online pseudonym I've never met and have no idea who the person is behind the pseudonym. Would that be personal?

Is the following statement personal:

Freetorhyme is stupid.

Why have you taken offense, and gotten emotional, over things said about "Simon Belmont"? Because those posts you were reacting to were not directed to your substantive arguments, but direct to you, "Simon Belmont".
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sock puppet wrote:But with Dan, his retorts are nothing but personal. He never addresses the mopologetic/NAMIRS tactics of personal assassination against authors of Mormon critical works or the denuding of uniquely Mormon doctrine. With Dan towards Scratch, it's always personal and Dan feigning victimization.

With Dr Scratch, the personal is an aberration. For every personal post, you get at least a dozen that are directed at mopologetic tactics. Dan, coming back the other way, is heavily dowsed with personal, and very, very little by way of defending those mopologetic tactics.


Your personal opinion does not fact make, sock.
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harmony wrote:
sock puppet wrote:But with Dan, his retorts are nothing but personal. He never addresses the mopologetic/NAMIRS tactics of personal assassination against authors of Mormon critical works or the denuding of uniquely Mormon doctrine. With Dan towards Scratch, it's always personal and Dan feigning victimization.

With Dr Scratch, the personal is an aberration. For every personal post, you get at least a dozen that are directed at mopologetic tactics. Dan, coming back the other way, is heavily dowsed with personal, and very, very little by way of defending those mopologetic tactics.


Your personal opinion does not fact make, sock.

Is that your personal opinion? You state it with the certitude of fact.
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sock puppet wrote:Why have you taken offense, and gotten emotional, over things said about "Simon Belmont"? Because those posts you were reacting to were not directed to your substantive arguments, but direct to you, "Simon Belmont".


I've never taken it personally. No one knows me, and I don't know anyone on here. That's how it should be.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
sock puppet wrote:But with Dan, his retorts are nothing but personal. He never addresses the mopologetic/NAMIRS tactics of personal assassination against authors of Mormon critical works or the denuding of uniquely Mormon doctrine. With Dan towards Scratch, it's always personal and Dan feigning victimization.


It cannot be personal, sock puppet. No matter how you spin it, he is commenting on a false identity and a fake pseudonym, not a real person.


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Obedience for its own sake is the Church's central message. The deep thoughts from the Church's purported living prophet are like a maudlin Hallmark card. There is nothing particularly profound, interesting, insightful, or rewarding about faithful membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

The statement above cannot be taken as a negative or critical statement. No matter how you spin it, I am commenting on a false identity and a fake pseudonym (excuse the redundancy "fake pseudonym"). There is no such entity as "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." It is a pseudonym. There IS an entity that actually exists that is called "Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." But I did not say anything about that entity in my above statement. I only mentioned the "false identity and fake pseudonym" of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." So as long as the name isn't real, the criticism isn't real, either.
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Simon Belmont wrote: a false identity and a fake pseudonym


Simon, can you give us an example of a real pseudonym?
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Darth J wrote:
Simon Belmont wrote: a false identity and a fake pseudonym


Simon, can you give us an example of a real pseudonym?


Lol. The hits never stop coming...

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And with the entrance of Darth J, another thread quickly devolves.
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Simon Belmont wrote:And with Darth J demonstrating my fatuous reasoning specifically in response to the argument I am making regarding the OP, I will pretend that Darth J is derailing and/or making an irrelevant personal attack, as a cheap substitute for attempting to support my assertions.
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