a five+ year crusade of character assassination

[_Yoda]

I posted this on the "I'm a Woman" thread, but these comments are apt for this thread as well:

My two cents regarding this whole Scratch/DCP feud...not that it really matters....is that although Scratch initiated it, DCP has "fanned the flames" through some of his actions. And, he has been advised by his friends to do exactly the opposite.

That said, Scratch has crossed what I would consider a moral line repeatedly with DCP. The digging up old Amazon wish lists and accrediting them to DCP, when they were, in fact, his son's, referring to DCP as an anti-semite, which does malign his reputation as both a professor of Islamic studies, and as a professor of BYU, in general, are clear examples of over the top behavior.

However, DCP is not the only person Scratch has harrassed in this way. The only way Tim Tribe could persuade Scratch to take his Linked In picture off of Scratch's website was to delete his own account from MDB, and vow never to post on MDB or MDD about apologetics again.

These are lines which I don't think that anyone has business crossing.

Light-hearted "poking" at someone is one thing. Doing things which cause problems for the person in real life are quite another.

[_Kishkumen]

My two cents regarding this whole Scratch/DCP feud...not that it really matters....is that although Scratch initiated it, DCP has "fanned the flames" through some of his actions. And, he has been advised by his friends to do exactly the opposite.

Precisely.

That said, Scratch has crossed what I would consider a moral line repeatedly with DCP. The digging up old Amazon wish lists and accrediting them to DCP, when they were, in fact, his son's, referring to DCP as an anti-semite, which does malign his reputation as both a professor of Islamic studies, and as a professor of BYU, in general, are clear examples of over the top behavior.

Yes, I would not have done those things. Those are the kinds of things that put me in conflict with Doctor Scratch.

[_Yoda]

My two cents regarding this whole Scratch/DCP feud...not that it really matters....is that although Scratch initiated it, DCP has "fanned the flames" through some of his actions. And, he has been advised by his friends to do exactly the opposite.

Precisely.

That said, Scratch has crossed what I would consider a moral line repeatedly with DCP. The digging up old Amazon wish lists and accrediting them to DCP, when they were, in fact, his son's, referring to DCP as an anti-semite, which does malign his reputation as both a professor of Islamic studies, and as a professor of BYU, in general, are clear examples of over the top behavior.

Yes, I would not have done those things. Those are the kinds of things that put me in conflict with Doctor Scratch.

Great minds think alike! That is one of the reasons I have always had a crush on you, Kish! ;-)

[_stemelbow]

Sometimes, after I take a few days off I'll pop back on here to catch myself up. Often its like I"m leaving my peaceful delightful life and entering some strange hostile world where everyone else is to blame. This thread is a wonderfully idiotic representation/summation of this joint. It probably should be pinned. Its adorable to see the defense of Scratch so much so that the posters will attempt to put blame on DCP or create off-the-wall deflections via DJ.

Seriously this thread is a perfect reflection of what this place is or has become. There is plenty of room for change though. Let's try to redirect.

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stemelbow reveals the only bullet in his gun...

Let's try to redirect.

Stem, you condescending old nanny (settle down, read your signature line). If you bothered to read the thread you would see quite a multitude of different, articulately expressed views and opinions.

[_Yoda]

Stem-

Do you diagree wiith my assessment, and if so, how?

[_Darth J]

Sometimes, after I take a few days off I'll pop back on here to catch myself up. Often its like I"m leaving my peaceful delightful life and entering some strange hostile world where everyone else is to blame. This thread is a wonderfully idiotic representation/summation of this joint. It probably should be pinned. Its adorable to see the defense of Scratch so much so that the posters will attempt to put blame on DCP or create off-the-wall deflections via DJ.

Seriously this thread is a perfect reflection of what this place is or has become. There is plenty of room for change though. Let's try to redirect.

What am I deflecting from, O Wise One? And at what point did I defend Scratch?

[_stemelbow]

Stem-

Do you diagree wiith my assessment, and if so, how?

I agree with your assessment. It was well-stated.

[_stemelbow]

If you bothered to read the thread you would see quite a multitude of different, articulately expressed views and opinions.

I saw Sethbag's well-though response and I saw others. I just think there are too many that drown those out.

[_stemelbow]

What am I deflecting from, O Wise One? And at what point did I defend Scratch?

Let's take a quick look at it all, DJ. SP complained that some folks actually think Scratch's attacks on DCP are largely personal and largely uncalled for. Simon said something about how DCP's responses too while getting personal with Scratch has DCP attacking a psuedonym of which no one, it appears, knows the in real life name of. You then respond in your deflective way to complain that the Church uses a pseudonym too, which is all pointless in the end because everyone knows what is referred to when mentioning the LDS Church or Mormon church or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.