I'm a Woman?

[_Drifting]

I don't even know what you want me to say, Beastie. I responded because I don't think relying on your best guess of people's motives is not a useful way to proceed. here you seem to question his motives even more. Who cares? I don't say responding to every little thing by Scratch, which DCP doesn't do, is a useful thing at all. I've told him before that he'd be best just to ignore him.

What?

And

What?

[_beastie]

I don't even know what you want me to say, Beastie. I responded because I don't think relying on your best guess of people's motives is not a useful way to proceed. here you seem to question his motives even more. Who cares? I don't say responding to every little thing by Scratch, which DCP doesn't do, is a useful thing at all. I've told him before that he'd be best just to ignore him.

Well, if his motive is what you ascribe, then he's a stupid man. Truly stupid.

[_Kishkumen]

That's a pretty unfair characterization on it all. I think DCP's stated position on why he responds is so the slew of personal attacks and attempts to assassinate his character are refuted. If unchallenged whose to say some of the attacks and allegations aren't accepted by more people.

It does seem to me that part of hte problem with DCP even giving any of this time is other's tend to go after him by assigned unpleasant motives to him. I've told him before to just ignore Scratch.

Is that why he started a thread on the Cafeteria about Scratch? Did he need to make sure that the few participants on a private message board knew that he had somehow "refuted" or, more accurately, "denied" something Scratch said or implied about him?

REALLY? A private message board. REALLY?

[_stemelbow]

Beastie, I don't care if you think he's stupid or not. It doesn't matter at all. I'm not sure what the whole point is in discussing him anymore at all. You think he's stupid or is motivated by something nefarious or something. Who cares?

Is that why he started a thread on the Cafeteria about Scratch? Did he need to make sure that the few participants on a private message board knew that he had somehow "refuted" or, more accurately, "denied" something Scratch said or implied about him?

REALLY? A private message board. REALLY?

I believe he said he started it for a couple of reasons (this is from memory since that board is inaccessible now):

1. to find out if the quote is authentic. he figured someone else could look it up quite easily for him, i guess.
2. To contradict the message that is put out so other's won't be under the impression that he prefers violence against those who no longer believe.

I suppose doing this on a private message board can be questioned (do people on that private board really want to look something up for him? do people on that board really not like him?) It doesn't matter. he was willing, as he said, to drop the issue completely once someone fulfilled his request, but instead on that thread on the private board his intentions were questioned to the point of him being accused of being mentally unhealthy, or some junk like that. He probably shouldn't have responded to the antagonizers on that board, but he did. It was all pretty pathetic if you ask me--and no by pathetic I don't think he was being pathetic.

[_Drifting]

It was all pretty pathetic if you ask me--and no by pathetic I don't think he was being pathetic.

Well that clears that up then...

[_Buffalo]

2. To contradict the message that is put out so other's won't be under the impression that he prefers violence against those who no longer believe.

Understandable. DCP doesn't want to be seen as another Brigham Young.

[_Kishkumen]

I believe he said he started it for a couple of reasons (this is from memory since that board is inaccessible now):

1. to find out if the quote is authentic. he figured someone else could look it up quite easily for him, i guess.
2. To contradict the message that is put out so other's won't be under the impression that he prefers violence against those who no longer believe.

It was a board made up of a small group of friends, stem. Why on earth do you suppose anyone on it needed clarification on the second point? Sorry, but this is a lame explanation.

I suppose doing this on a private message board can be questioned (do people on that private board really want to look something up for him? do people on that board really not like him?) It doesn't matter. he was willing, as he said, to drop the issue completely once someone fulfilled his request, but instead on that thread on the private board his intentions were questioned to the point of him being accused of being mentally unhealthy, or some junk like that. He probably shouldn't have responded to the antagonizers on that board, but he did. It was all pretty pathetic if you ask me--and no by pathetic I don't think he was being pathetic.

I believe that the whole reason for creating a board to which the Doctor was not invited was to find a refuge from such drama. One would think that Daniel Peterson, of all people, might have appreciated that. Instead he crapped all over it by dragging the issue up in a place where it was, by intentional design, not a welcome topic of conversation. Now, Daniel has reduced to ash his "friend" Liz's board, at a time when she did not really need such nonsense. Talk about self-absorbed and inconsiderate. Jeez!

[_stemelbow]

It was a board made up of a small group of friends, stem. Why on earth do you suppose anyone on it needed clarification on the second point? Sorry, but this is a lame explanation.

Actually there weren't many friends of DCP there. It just so happens DCP is friends with someone named Liz and Liz is friends with people who have no intention of being friends with DCP--unless of course "friends" can be said to be those who question his motives to the point of thinking he must be mentally ill and then mocking him for it. It may be a lame explanation, but what does that matter to anyone here? I don't see why anyone would care. So why do you find yourself so concerned over it?

I believe that the whole reason for creating a board to which the Doctor was not invited was to find a refuge from such drama. One would think that Daniel Peterson, of all people, might have appreciated that. Instead he crapped all over it by dragging the issue up in a place where it was, by intentional design, not a welcome topic of conversation. Now, Daniel has reduced to ash his "friend" Liz's board, at a time when she did not really need such nonsense. Talk about self-absorbed and inconsiderate. Jeez!

I was on the board too. I don't think it was Peterson's fault so much as those who wished to tell Peterson's he's all messed up for asking if the quote is authentic. Talk about "Jeez" and "inconsiderate". he asked. It was answered. They could have just let it go. They did not. htey harped on him for a few pages. It was all crappy. I'm not saying Daniel had no part in it all. Sure he could have dropped it. But of course the aggressors were the ones who went after him. That kind of stuff is meant for this type of joint not that joint. The place fell apart because of four reasons (in sequence):
1—people decided to not play nice and went after Peterson.
2. Peterson defended himself and responded with snark and curtness.
3. Someone from there leaked information for Scratch to complain about Peterson over here.
4. Liz felt like she hurt people’s feelings here and didn’t want to continue that.

[_Kishkumen]

Actually there weren't many friends of DCP there. It just so happens DCP is friends with someone named Liz and Liz is friends with people who have no intention of being friends with DCP--unless of course "friends" can be said to be those who question his motives to the point of thinking he must be mentally ill and then mocking him for it. It may be a lame explanation, but what does that matter to anyone here? I don't see why anyone would care. So why do you find yourself so concerned over it?

You don't weasel out of it that easily, stem. The point is that I bet no one there was unfamiliar with Daniel Peterson. I doubt anyone of them needed to be reminded that he would not literally hunt down an apostate. I was invited to the board, and now I regret not taking Liz up on the invitation. I regret the fact that now the board has imploded.

I was on the board too. I don't think it was Peterson's fault so much as those who wished to tell Peterson's he's all messed up for asking if the quote is authentic. Talk about "Jeez" and "inconsiderate". he asked. It was answered. They could have just let it go. They did not. htey harped on him for a few pages. It was all crappy. I'm not saying Daniel had no part in it all. Sure he could have dropped it. But of course the aggressors were the ones who went after him. That kind of stuff is meant for this type of joint not that joint. The place fell apart because of four reasons (in sequence):
1—people decided to not play nice and went after Peterson.
2. Peterson defended himself and responded with snark and curtness.
3. Someone from there leaked information for Scratch to complain about Peterson over here.
4. Liz felt like she hurt people’s feelings here and didn’t want to continue that.

Well, stem, if that is your interpretation of events, it is no mystery why you persist in this apologia. Who brought up the Doctor? What were the chances that such a conversation involving these two characters (Peterson and Scratch) would not end badly?

The wisest course for a man who might have treasured a respite from the Doctor would have been not to bring it up in the first place. I think most people could have anticipated bringing this up ending badly. So what gives?

[_stemelbow]

You don't weasel out of it that easily, stem. The point is that I bet no one there was unfamiliar with Daniel Peterson. I doubt anyone of them needed to be reminded that he would not literally hunt down an apostate. I was invited the the board, and now I regret not taking Liz up on the invitation. I regret the fact that now the board has imploded.

Well, stem, if that is your interpretation of events, it is no mystery why you persist in this apologia. Who brought up the Doctor? What were the chances that such a conversation involving these two characters (Peterson and Scratch) would not end badly?

The wisest course for a man who might have treasured a respite from the Doctor would have been not to bring it up in the first place. I think most people could have anticipated bringing this up ending badly. So what gives?

I don't know what you think I'm weaseling out of. I reported, as my memory had it, what he said and what i read on that board. That's not weaseling anything.

I'm not saying DCP made a wise choice to bring up the sig line, but he did have a right to object to it. I really don't see the problem with that. But for objecting to it, he was told he is mentally ill. It was pathetic stuff.