Holy Ghost on vacation...again...

[_Blixa]

You have made a good start. But you missed one: the moral decay in socieities that have put sexuality and all things sexual in the forefront of our lives. Plus, the fashion style of young girls have now taken on a more mature young adult look with the encouragement of parents.

From a religious perspective: the power of satan to destroy the human fabric at a very young age by any means necessary.

Forgive me, but your post is ridiculous. 'Moral decay' is not to blame for pedophilia. Sexuality in society is not to blame for pedophilia. The fashion choices of young girls or their parents are not to blame for pedophilia. Even 'Satan' whispering in otherwise worthy people's ears is not an expiation for pedophilia. Are you heffing kidding?

Come now, Morely, that human fabric may be light cotton, after all.

[_Drifting]

Here is a better idea: begin to understand why abusing children (not just sexually) is at an all time high. Why is there so much sexual abuse and what is behind it?

You are trying to avoid the point. Which is why the Holy Ghost can inspire members to find car keys etc but can't help Bishops protect children in his ward from pedophiles?

[_LDSToronto]

Here is a better idea: begin to understand why abusing children (not just sexually) is at an all time high. Why is there so much sexual abuse and what is behind it?

Oh, I've got an even *better* idea than that! Why don't the LDS begin to understand why revelation doesn't help them one whit?

H.

[_why me]

Forgive me, but your post is ridiculous. 'Moral decay' is not to blame for pedophilia. Sexuality in society is not to blame for pedophilia. The fashion choices of young girls or their parents are not to blame for pedophilia.

Most of my comments are based on research. Try this:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... pert-says/

[_why me]

Come now, Morely, that human fabric may be light cotton, after all.

For all your intelligience you are not a social scientist. Try this:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... pert-says/

Or this:

http://thenewamerican.com/culture/faith ... girls-4-12

I do not endorse everything on the latter website. But the article I linked to, I do.

[Guest]

Come now, Morely, that human fabric may be light cotton, after all.

This is even better:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... shion.html

Notice the links in the news piece. You may find them interesting. From the by numbers piece: At least one in five men have pedophiliac fantasies.

You know biixa between our two intellects we would make a wonderful academic team.

[_Yoda]

Perhaps God could stop calling people to Primary or Youth callings if they are prone to pedophile type inclinations - that might just help.

And how does it do this? Should a part of the interview process be: excuse me brother jones, but do you have pedophile inclinations?

Anytime an adult is with a child or even if adults are with a child, child abuse can happen. The only solutions are to do away with all sports camps, swim clubs, track and field practice, basketball practice, football practice, sunday school, school in general and on and on it goes.

You are making ridiculous giant leaps that don't even make sense. First of all, track teachers, basketball coaches, soccer coaches, etc., are normally emplyed by the schools and have to go through background checks and training as part of belonging to the US Department of Education.

And, although it is true that all incidents cannot be prevented, there is nothing wrong with putting in some measures to help improve the safety of children.

Frankly, why not have the bishop ask about previous pedophile experiences? If they can ask about masturbation, why not ask about something that concerns the safety of our children? Of course, there are ways to ask these questions that are diplomatic, and non-threatening.

The way I would ask the question would be as follows:

Brother or Sister ______, we are thinking about calling you to teach in the primary. As you know, there is nothing more precious in the Lord's eyes than our little ones, and the safety of those little ones. As a steward for the ward, I need to ask you the following questions. Have you ever been convicted of a crime which involved the emotional, physical, or sexual abuse of a child? Have you ever participated in any type of situation where you were emotionally, physically, or sexually abusive to a child?

I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of questioning.

[_why me]

You are making ridiculous giant leaps that don't even make sense. First of all, track teachers, basketball coaches, soccer coaches, etc., are normally emplyed by the schools and have to go through background checks and training as part of belonging to the US Department of Education.

As long as we have the internet and the fashion industries sexualization of children we will always face an uphill battle. Every pedophile starts with his or her first victim and continues until caught. As the research suggests, one in five men have pedophile fantasies. The pornofication of our societies leads to the end result. And this is the problem.

[_Drifting]

You are making ridiculous giant leaps that don't even make sense. First of all, track teachers, basketball coaches, soccer coaches, etc., are normally emplyed by the schools and have to go through background checks and training as part of belonging to the US Department of Education.

As long as we have the internet and the fashion industries sexualization of children we will always face an uphill battle. Every pedophile starts with his or her first victim and continues until caught. As the research suggests, one in five men have pedophile fantasies. The pornofication of our societies leads to the end result. And this is the problem.

No, that's not the problem in the LDS Church (which is what we are talking about). The problem is the claimed inspiration involved in issuing callings is either non existent or inadequate.

[_Stormy Waters]

Perhaps God could stop calling people to Primary or Youth callings if they are prone to pedophile type inclinations - that might just help.

And how does it do this? Should a part of the interview process be: excuse me brother jones, but do you have pedophile inclinations?

Well 'why me' being God he doesn't have to ask these questions. He already knows if someone is inclined to be a pedophile. The real question should be why 'God' called a man who was inclined to abuse children to a calling where he would work with children. I think it boils down to two simple choices (a) God knew and did it anyway or (b) he wasn't called by revelation.