A Stak Attack, 2 missionaries, and suffering in God's plan

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Re: A Stak Attack, 2 missionaries, and suffering in God's plan

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Darth J wrote:Mormonism has no "unique story" of how creation happened. Mormonism merely declares that it did happen, and we are not privy to the details.


My goodness…another day another set of trollish games played by DJ. There are some details in the LDS story of creation. You are being obtuse again, for some silly affect for your buds.

God working within the realm of eternal laws is what creation ex materia implies. The idea that God has a physical body creates problems with God being limited in time and space---meaning that you are creating more problems than you are solving here. But, as in the example to which I linked, the belief that God has a physical body is unnecessary to believe that God is limited by eternal laws, and is irrelevant to the problem of evil.


Your link didn’t work for me. But no prob, I think the LDS concept here is quite unique, all things considered, and does present a different perspective from which to work in discussing the problem of evil. You simply disagree with me, it seems. Who cares? Then lets not discuss, pouty.

I am aware that you intend to rest on argument by assertion.


Good. I’m willing to discuss. You seem only willing to lecture, whimper, condescend and dogmatically declare yourself the smartestest ever. Shoot…

QFT


What’s QFT, if I may? I figure you can give me something more than your usual in answering this at least.

The subject is what is unique to Mormonism, not things that you are making up as you go. Mormonism does quibble about semantics when it comes to distinguishing between "salvation" and "eternal life." "God will make everything better in the next life" is not a theodicy that is unique to Mormonism, either.


All things considered what Mormonism presents helps support certain theocies. This being one of them.

Perhaps you would like to tell us about some of your favorite Christian denominations that do not believe Christ suffered for all mankind.


Read more carefully what I said, if you would. I did not say Christ idd not suffer for all mankind at all.

There is plenty to discuss on this topic, and it has been discussed for hundreds of years, and Mormonism has not brought anything new or unique or insightful to the table. The only thing you have attempted to back up as distinctive to Mormonism is its mythos of the pre-mortal life, but you have announced that you do not intend to explain what is unique about this, but will merely rely on naked assertion.


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Re: A Stak Attack, 2 missionaries, and suffering in God's plan

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stemelbow wrote:
Good. I’m willing to discuss. You seem only willing to lecture, whimper, condescend and dogmatically declare yourself the smartestest ever. Shoot…


That doesn't seem very fair. Did he actually say that?
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Buffalo wrote:That doesn't seem very fair. Did he actually say that?


srsly, you're worried about being fair? I didn't say he said that.
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stemelbow wrote:
Buffalo wrote:That doesn't seem very fair. Did he actually say that?


srsly, you're worried about being fair? I didn't say he said that.


You used to be worried about being fair. What happened?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: A Stak Attack, 2 missionaries, and suffering in God's plan

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Stemelbow:

I'm sorry that you feel that it is trolling not to be dazzled by your unsupported assertions.

This is the second thread that I can remember where you have declared that Mormonism has some insight into the problem of evil that cannot be found elsewhere, or that it does something other than add additional mythology to dress up proposed theodicies that other people already thought of.

I am pretty sure that the moderators are not preventing you from articulating what exactly it is that Mormonism has to say about the problem of evil that nobody else already came up with, so there must be some other reason why you have failed to explain what it is.

Feel free to add in the "details" about the creation that we get from Mormonism that are not to be had elsewhere, while you're at it.

P.S. "QFT" means "quoted for truth."
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Dj, go review that thread that we previously discussed this issue then. I've already made my case in there. You've continued to miss my point.
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stemelbow wrote:Dj, go review that thread that we previously discussed this issue then. I've already made my case in there. You've continued to miss my point.


Clearly, I must have missed your point. Your ethereal, evasive, illusive point.


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Darth J wrote:Clearly, I must have missed your point.


QFT
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stemelbow wrote:
Darth J wrote:Clearly, I must have missed your point.


QFT


Stemelbow:

Did you know that I have a really great thread on the board about how Mormon communitarianism in the Great Basin provides an excellent model for colonists from Earth terra-forming Mars?

Oh, I guess you must have missed it.
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Re: A Stak Attack, 2 missionaries, and suffering in God's plan

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Darth J wrote:Stemelbow:

Did you know that I have a really great thread on the board about how Mormon communitarianism in the Great Basin provides an excellent model for colonists from Earth terra-forming Mars?

Oh, I guess you must have missed it.


I've missed tons of threads
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