Schryver's Article Is Going To Be Published, Somewhere?

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I heard it suggested that the most likely venue for a Schryver publication would be FAIR, even though, as far as I know, they don't publish actual books. Thus, Schryver's Book of Abraham "book" would represent the Maiden Voyage for FAIR as a "printing press." I can foresee all sorts of problems with this, however. One thing Will noted was this:

Nomad/Wheat/Will wrote:All my publications that include copyrighted images are subject to approval by the Church History Department. I doubt that this book (and its many accompanying copyrighted images) will be approved for online publication.


If the Church History Department gives the go-ahead for a FAIR publication, it will be tantamount to the actual LDS Church giving its "endorsement" to FAIR. All of those little disclaimers that say, "These views do not represent the views of the LDS Church...blah blah blah" will be that much harder to accept as legitimate. Furthermore, this would be tacit acknowledgement of the Church's and the Maxwell Institute's basic nervousness about having anything to do with Schryver's work and reputation. Back in the day, this sort of crap would have simply been excreted onto SHIELDS. So perhaps FAIR is being "used" as a very special kind of bridge between these various dimensions of Mopologetics?

I dunno. My suspicion is that Schryver's "book" will never see the light of day.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:I dunno. My suspicion is that Schryver's "book" will never see the light of day.
That's exactly how Schryver likely wants it. Once he publishes it (if it is even written), then it will be taken apart piece by piece. Even though his 'troops' have been thinned down to a few bare bones (Englund and Nomad), Schryver can thump around and act like his cipher theory is some great triumph. As long as it remains oblique and unpublished, there will remain the slightest possibility (the sine qua non of mopologetic success) that he may be on to something.

Look how Greg Smith and DCP had taken Will's theory, 'hook, line and sinker', from their previews, but once it was presented at FAIR, it no longer involved 'tectonic plates' or 'Mount Doom'. What little shreds of interest or possible credibility Will's theory might have left would be decimated following publication.
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sock puppet wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:I dunno. My suspicion is that Schryver's "book" will never see the light of day.
That's exactly how Schryver likely wants it. Once he publishes it (if it is even written), then it will be taken apart piece by piece. Even though his 'troops' have been thinned down to a few bare bones (Englund and Nomad), Schryver can thump around and act like his cipher theory is some great triumph. As long as it remains oblique and unpublished, there will remain the slightest possibility (the sine qua non of mopologetic success) that he may be on to something.

Look how Greg Smith and DCP had taken Will's theory, 'hook, line and sinker', from their previews, but once it was presented at FAIR, it no longer involved 'tectonic plates' or 'Mount Doom'. What little shreds of interest or possible credibility Will's theory might have left would be decimated following publication.


We have a winner!

The last thing Will wants is to be published. If there is a publisher in the house, go ahead and appoach him with an offer of publishing his book for free...
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I said it already, mattie is Ray A's sock puppet.
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Spurven Ten Sing wrote:I said it already, mattie is Ray A's sock puppet.

OoooOooo I like this idea. It resonates with my ki.
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Quasimodo wrote:
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
It's also interesting that Schryver won't tell anyone where it's going to be published. Any bets? Will, why not tell us?


I'm feeling a little bad about the derail. As an apology to Everybody Wang Chung I'll answer part of the OP.

I think Schryver will either have to self publish or find a publication that will accept his paper with what must be some questionable research. National Enquirer?


Based on his recent comments it isn't a paper but a book of about 500 pages. I suspect that when he finally does finish it will be several volumes long, in multiple languages., debut on the top of the NY Times best seller list, be an instant candidate for the Pulitzer prize and put him into the running for a Nobel.
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Fence Sitter wrote:
Based on his recent comments it isn't a paper but a book of about 500 pages. I suspect that when he finally does finish it will be several volumes long, in multiple languages., debut on the top of the NY Times best seller list, be an instant candidate for the Pulitzer prize and put him into the running for a Nobel.


Who should play Schryver in the film version?
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I'm sure that, at least in part, Will sees this long delay in publishing as an act of "revenge" directed at Metcalfe. The Mopologists have long been very deeply resentful over Metcalfe's reticence.
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Chap wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:
Based on his recent comments it isn't a paper but a book of about 500 pages. I suspect that when he finally does finish it will be several volumes long, in multiple languages., debut on the top of the NY Times best seller list, be an instant candidate for the Pulitzer prize and put him into the running for a Nobel.


Who should play Schryver in the film version?


Nomad?
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Fence Sitter wrote:Based on his recent comments it isn't a paper but a book of about 500 pages. I suspect that when he finally does finish it will be several volumes long, in multiple languages., debut on the top of the NY Times best seller list, be an instant candidate for the Pulitzer prize and put him into the running for a Nobel.
Chap wrote:Who should play Schryver in the film version?
Fence Sitter wrote:Nomad?

I was thinking more along the lines of Steve Buscemi. I imagine Will's personality could be a bit like Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs.
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