Simon Belmont: This is what "quote mining" means

[_Darth J]

That's the dementia that Mopologetics forces you into. He will actually keep repeating that my saying that in some way we don't understand, Christ vicariously suffered every possible kind of pain and sorrow a person can face in mortality, is a distortion of LDS doctrine.

I think it is because you type it in the wrong spirit, Darth. If you were to throw in some smarmy statement of wonder, praise, or gratitude, you would probably be pronounced wise.

You have to admit that Simon Belmont has done a marvelous work and a wonder on this thread by taking my statements out of context and quote mining me to ironically accuse me of the same.

Seeing this happen in real time saves a lot of effort in demonstrating how disingenuous and desperate Mopologist disciples are.

[_Darth J]

Also ironically, in a thread about misrepresenting what someone said, he is misrepresenting my statement about "vicariously" as if to say that Christ imagined it. In this thread, both Buffalo and I have provided quotations where LDS General Authorities have said that Christ suffered vicariously for us.

And now we are back to projection, where Simon Belmont's lack of faith in the power of the atonement because he can't make sense of it is imputed to me.

He would probably do better were he having an actual crisis of faith and acknowledging it. He is up to his eyeballs in deception.

I stand corrected, Reverend. Simon would have to have had faith in the LDS Church in the first place before he could have a crisis of faith.

[_Kishkumen]

Holland's an idiot. Christ was the light of life and in all things and through all things from the beginning. He did not need to pick it up again. That's recreational insight. Or playing fast and loose to give em a goose.

What do you make of Simon's understanding of these things, Nightlion?

[_Simon Belmont]

And ironically, in a thread about quote mining, Simon Belmont left this out of my answer:

I left out an irrelevant quote by Chap.

I asked you a question, you answered in the affirmative. Are you now taking that answer back? Let's clear this up:

Do you, Darth J. believe that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches or believes that Jesus Christ felt both the physical and mental sensations and sorrow of being raped?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Also ironically, in a thread about misrepresenting what someone said, he is misrepresenting my statement about "vicariously" as if to say that Christ imagined it. In this thread, both Buffalo and I have provided quotations where LDS General Authorities have said that Christ suffered vicariously for us.

And now we are back to projection, where Simon Belmont's lack of faith in the power of the atonement because he can't make sense of it is imputed to me.

So, when you quoted this exact definition of vicarious, and emphasized it by underlining it, you didn't actually mean it?

felt or enjoyed through imagined participation in the experience of others:

You're really struggling now, DJ. I can't believe you are trying to die on this molehill. Look what anti-Mormonism does to a person!

[_Kishkumen]

Simon would have to have had faith in the LDS Church in the first place before he could have a crisis of faith.

Verily, Darth. Thou spakest. Simon follows the counterfeit Gospel of Mopologia, which has little to do with genuine faith.

[_Simon Belmont]

Come on, Darth J. are you going to backtrack on your own words, now? You've really dug yourself in deep this time. The only retort you have is "Simon is having a crisis of faith."

[_Kishkumen]

Seeing this happen in real time saves a lot of effort in demonstrating how disingenuous and desperate Mopologist disciples are.

Still, it can be painful to watch.

[_Kishkumen]

Oh, hey, since Scratch is not currently posting in this thread, it looks like Kishkumen has become your lackey DJ! You know he always needs someone to latch onto (as long he or she is anti-Mormon).

How pleasantly nice!

LOL! You're such an amateur, Simon.

[_Darth J]

Simon:

You are just taking issue with the logic of Christ being able to experience what it is like for a woman to be raped. You have done nothing to show that the Church does not in fact teach that Christ experienced every possible pain and sorrow that a man, woman, or child is capable of experiencing.

You are also arguing with the Bretheren, not with me. If you don't like the word "vicariously," take it up with Marion G. Romney.

Thanks, by the way, for the unintentional comedy. You have no idea how entertaining it is for me to be here just for the lulz and watch you think you are in a cosmological battle against the enemies of the Church.

It's like watching kids playing with their Star Wars action figures as if it's a matter of life or death.

[_Kishkumen]

yeah... nevermind

Or you could step up your game. Nightlion has more faith in the tip of his pinky than you may ever have, Simon. He doesn't cling to sad sack pseudo-science to prop up his spirit. He goes to the source. You should pay more attention to him and waste less time doing something you suck at: being clever.