Best Website to Explain LDS Church Truth Claim Problems

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Quasimodo wrote:
Richard Packham is great. I was reading his stuff and trading a few emails with him before I found you.

I'm a little surprised that we don't hear anything from him on this site (maybe we do and I don't recognize him).


Richard does a great "GA Voice." Next time I see him, I'm going to ask him to say "In the Shadow of the Everlasting Hills" for me.

Did you hear the podcast he did for John Larson's Mormon Expression?
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Blixa wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:
Richard Packham is great. I was reading his stuff and trading a few emails with him before I found you.

I'm a little surprised that we don't hear anything from him on this site (maybe we do and I don't recognize him).


Richard does a great "GA Voice." Next time I see him, I'm going to ask him to say "In the Shadow of the Everlasting Hills" for me.

Did you hear the podcast he did for John Larson's Mormon Expression?


You should also ask him to drop by and say "Hi" to us on MDB.

I haven't heard his podcast, but I think I have some free time to have a listen, tomorrow. I'll look it up. Thanks!
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I only see Richard on the RFM board. Takes a lot of time to board hop so maybe he just sticks to that board.
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Thanks to all for the information you provided. This is helpful.

She hasn’t yet shared with me her reasons for her doubt. She is on the fence, so to speak, and wanted to know my reasons, so I’m not sure what would be most beneficial to her.

My plan is to point her to 2-3 sites that provide the truth without getting hostile or overly-inflammatory.

I also intend to recommend to her that she check out the former MAD, and pose some of her questions there. Secretly, I know she will probably be ill-treated by the LDS there if she poses tough questions, and will likely get the usual convoluted non-answers by the apologists. I also will point her to FARMS. This will also validate that many of the issues I mentioned to her are not made up by anti-Mormons. For example, that the Book of Abraham manuscripts were found and translated in the late 60s, DNA and other evidence against the Book of Mormon, Smith’s polygamy, etc. She can see both arguments and decide for herself what is best for her.

I probably won’t touch any doctrinal issues, minor points, or my distaste for LDS culture, etc., unless she specifically asks me about it.

Thanks again, all.
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selek wrote:An LDS acquaintance I worked with years ago recently contacted me to learn more about my reasons for leaving the LDS church. I gave her a general synopsis of my reasons, but I want to direct her to the best online sources that discuss the problems with:

1) Book of Mormon, especially incongruence with known archeology, DNA, history, etc.

2) Book of Abraham. A few years ago, I watched a video online that went through point-by-point about how the Book of Abraham is bogus. Does anyone have this link? I can’t find it.

3) Church history issues, especially things about Joseph Smith, his frauds, lies, polygamy, etc.

I’m NOT looking for debates about LDS doctrine versus mainstream Christianity.

Rather, resources that give a basic synopsis of the biggest facts that are undisputed by LDS “scholars” but are largely unknown, glossed over or hidden from the general chapel Mormon.

Thank you in advance.


Mormonthink.com is the best in presenting what is claimed to be true vs the actual truth.

I think this is the Book of Abraham video you're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcyzkd_m6KE

Since Mormons are turned away from "anti" sources, you may want to use their sources and point out the flaws. Pointing out the church's own record of Joseph Smith's polygamy is one, and the history of the church claiming the Urim and Thummim is dated 1829 when the footnotes clearly place the first use at 1833 is another.
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