It is a paradoxical relationship. A large majority of Mormon leaders and their followers are Republicans. However, the majority of Republicans both dislike and are mistrustful of Mormonism.
Is there any way to get closer to a non-sexual sadomasochistic relationship than this?
Republicans are to S, what Mormons are to M
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Re: Republicans are to S, what Mormons are to M
moksha wrote:It is a paradoxical relationship. A large majority of Mormon leaders and their followers are Republicans. However, the majority of Republicans both dislike and are mistrustful of Mormonism.
Is there any way to get closer to a non-sexual sadomasochistic relationship than this?
Nice opening gambit. If it were true. Which it isn't.
Most republicans couldn't care less about Mormonism, know little about it, and would be willing to enthusiastically support a Mormon were she/he espousing policies they believe in. You might make the case that some, maybe most, evangelicals will not support a Mormon, but that's probably as far as you can go.
So typical of liberals to think everyone else endorses candidates the way they do: what ever feels good.
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Mormons and Republicans tend to be conservative or classically liberal (virtually the same thing) so there is a lot in common despite the angst of some. The Gospel of Jesus Christ itself is conservative and God is obviously a free market capitalist according to the scriptures.
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bcspace wrote:The Gospel of Jesus Christ itself is conservative and God is obviously a free market capitalist according to the scriptures.
Obviously. For example:
Matt 19 wrote:21. Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 10 wrote:21. Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22. And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23. And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24. And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Luke 18 wrote:22. Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23. And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
24. And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
25. For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
There were a campaign - I think it was in 1995 under GBH, I may err - to read Book of Mormon in a year.
I suggest another campaign - read the Bible.
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- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Re: Republicans are to S, what Mormons are to M
ludwigm wrote:bcspace wrote:The Gospel of Jesus Christ itself is conservative and God is obviously a free market capitalist according to the scriptures.
Obviously. For example:Matt 19 wrote:21. Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.Mark 10 wrote:21. Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22. And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23. And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24. And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.Luke 18 wrote:22. Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23. And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
24. And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
25. For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
There were a campaign - I think it was in 1995 under GBH, I may err - to read Book of Mormon in a year.
I suggest another campaign - read the Bible.
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Mind numbing. Utterly. These are the same old, tired, threadbare liberation-theological proof texts that have been used by careless but emotionally committed ideologues for generations now. Look at the picture again. This, of course, has nothing whatever to do with "capitalism," but simply with the nature of mortality. The places on earth, traditionally, where this kind of relationship exists in institutionalized, perpetual form, are of course the socialist societies, and others like them (military juntas, thugocracies, kleptocracies, and all manner of top down, command and control economies).
It just wouldn't have done ludwigm any good to have shown a picture of Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Lonnie Johnson, Kenneth Chenault, Ronald A. Williams, Ursula Burns, etc., etc., etc., etc., would it? That would have begun the spoilage of his simple minded leftist moral posturing, wouldn't it?
Yes, it would.
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