The Top Ten Happenings in Mopologetics, 2011

[_Kevin Graham]

Incidentally, Schryver has backed off his cipher argument now:

I posted a couple of responses to William's presentation this morning:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... not-to-be/

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... ry-thesis/

[_Chap]

Incidentally, Schryver has backed off his cipher argument now:

I posted a couple of responses to William's presentation this morning:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... not-to-be/

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... ry-thesis/

Aha! A Kevin Graham post to start the weekend!

So, if the cipher argument is being slid back into the shadows, what IS Schryver's current theory about the Book of Abraham and the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar, etc.

(by the way, it occurs to me that there are some new people on this board who might appreciate it if your explanation had a kind of 'new readers begin here' introductory paragraph, if that is not too much trouble.)

[_Some Schmo]

2. The Rise of Mr. Stakhanovite. No person defined the world of online discussion of Mopologetics better than the irrepressible, brilliant, pipe-smoking, Rat-Pack-loving, Socratic gadfly known as Mr. Stakhanovite. 2011 saw him fully emerge and blossom into a formidable messageboard participant, with his deft philosophical evisceration of everyone from Bill Hamblin to poor, hapless mfbukowski. Mr. Stak, in 2011, demonstrated more than any other poster how vibrant, exciting, illuminating, and entertaining the world of online Mopologetics can be. In some respects, 2011 was The Year of the Stak.

Utter nonsense. There are few posters more full of themselves, ridiculous meanderings, and crap.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

[_Chap]

2. The Rise of Mr. Stakhanovite. ....

Utter nonsense. There are few posters more full of themselves, ridiculous meanderings, and s***.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

If it wasn't for Mr S, Daniel C. Peterson would come over here and murder us all in our beds. Try to think of him as the garlic that keeps the vampires away. You ought to be grateful ...

Besides, his masterfully ironic impersonation of a bright and slightly self-admiring graduate student has its value too. From the mopologetic perspective, I suppose he could be seen as maklekan's essential Evil Twin - you know, 'opposition in all things'?

[_Some Schmo]

If it wasn't for Mr S, Daniel C. Peterson would come over here and murder us all in our beds. Try to think of him as the garlic that keeps the vampires away. You ought to be grateful ...

I think a better analogy would be chemotherapy. I read many of his posts and throw up. I suppose I should be grateful that he kills cancerous mopologetics, though, despite the suffering?

Besides, his masterfully ironic impersonation of a bright and slightly self-admiring graduate student has its value too. From the mopologetic perspective, I suppose he could be seen as maklekan's essential Evil Twin - you know, 'opposition in all things'?

Is it 'ironic' or 'hypocritical'?

The problem is that he's mentally masturbated so much, his brain is chafed, shrunken and covered in spew residue.

[_Yoda]

If it wasn't for Mr S, Daniel C. Peterson would come over here and murder us all in our beds. Try to think of him as the garlic that keeps the vampires away. You ought to be grateful ...

I think a better analogy would be chemotherapy. I read many of his posts and throw up. I suppose I should be grateful that he kills cancerous mopologetics, though, despite the suffering?

Besides, his masterfully ironic impersonation of a bright and slightly self-admiring graduate student has its value too. From the mopologetic perspective, I suppose he could be seen as maklekan's essential Evil Twin - you know, 'opposition in all things'?

Is it 'ironic' or 'hypocritical'?

The problem is that he's mentally masturbated so much, his brain is chafed, shrunken and covered in spew residue.

That was a visual I didn't need this early in the morning.

[_Kevin Graham]

Incidentally, Schryver has backed off his cipher argument now:

I posted a couple of responses to William's presentation this morning:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... not-to-be/

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... ry-thesis/

Aha! A Kevin Graham post to start the weekend!

So, if the cipher argument is being slid back into the shadows, what IS Schryver's current theory about the Book of Abraham and the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar, etc.

(by the way, it occurs to me that there are some new people on this board who might appreciate it if your explanation had a kind of 'new readers begin here' introductory paragraph, if that is not too much trouble.)

I really should do this, I get these requests all the time. I'll work on something soon.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

Incidentally, Schryver has backed off his cipher argument now:

I posted a couple of responses to William's presentation this morning:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... not-to-be/

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... ry-thesis/

Kevin,

Since it appears that your above posts have been deleted by the Mods, could you post them here?

[_Chap]

Incidentally, Schryver has backed off his cipher argument now:

I posted a couple of responses to William's presentation this morning:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... not-to-be/

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... ry-thesis/

Kevin,

Since it appears that your above posts have been deleted by the Mods, could you post them here?

I read both these posts, and so far as I recall they were almost completely focused on scholarly issues. I can't recall any rude words at all, though it was clear that KG did not see much value in the succession of positions taken by Schryver, and said so clearly.

Obviously that may no longer seem the case on a second reading, but just how weak can the LDS apologetics on this issue be if this kind of discussion has to be strangled in its cradle?

Answer: pretty well non-existent in terms of scholarly credibility outside MDDB. Well, perhaps even within MDDB too - if they thought KG's point of view was factually unreliable or logically flawed, wouldn't they just post a public demolition? But they can't ...

[_Kishkumen]

I love this time of year. . . because it's the time that I get to read Doctor Scratch's annual "The Top Ten Happenings in Mopologetics" thread.

They're the threads I look forward to all year, literally.

Kudos to you for another great thread, Doctor Scratch! I wholeheartedly enjoyed it, as usual.

It is a real holiday treat.