If you have a need to believe in the collection of BS known as Mormonism, then you go with either the current explanation from LDS Inc or the local faith promoting rumor.
If you have no need to believe Mormonism, then you already KNOW it is impossible for an untrained person to translate real tangible records let alone unseen purported records.
When is a prophet translating as a prophet?
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Re: When is a prophet translating as a prophet?
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Re: When is a prophet translating as a prophet?
I am sure he filled his adult diaper at that moment as he thought "oh crap! I am so screwed!"honorentheos wrote:It believe the papyrus came into church hands in the mid-late 60's which means that McKay was the prophet.
I wonder - did he believe in his own abilities as prophet enough that he got a thrill before looking at them for the first time? As if he might see something that no one else could see there? I wonder if they tried to use the U&T? I honestly do. Because I then wonder what they thought after it didn't work?
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Re: When is a prophet translating as a prophet?
Fence Sitter wrote:Book of Mormon –Original (gold plates) not available- Inspired translation.
Book of Moses –No records to compare - Inspired translation or revelation.
Book Of Abraham--Relevant portions missing- Inspired translation.
EA/GAEL-Existing Documents-Secular translation
Kinderhook Plates-Existing known fraud-Secular translation
Greek Psalter shown to Joseph Smith in 1842 by Henry Caswall-Secular translation
It looks like the only time a prophet is translating as a prophet is when the original is no where to be found.
What an amazing coincidence you've discovered!
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: When is a prophet translating as a prophet?
Buffalo wrote:Fence Sitter wrote:Book of Mormon –Original (gold plates) not available- Inspired translation.
Book of Moses –No records to compare - Inspired translation or revelation.
Book Of Abraham--Relevant portions missing- Inspired translation.
EA/GAEL-Existing Documents-Secular translation
Kinderhook Plates-Existing known fraud-Secular translation
Greek Psalter shown to Joseph Smith in 1842 by Henry Caswall-Secular translation
It looks like the only time a prophet is translating as a prophet is when the original is no where to be found.
What an amazing coincidence you've discovered!
I'd call it predictable blind chance.
In other words (words copyright J.S.) trivial.
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- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei